Don't really care either way tbh, but if we believe in an amnesty , and it is proven to have worked; then hanging a few "old now" undereducated and badly led squaddies from over 30 years ago" out to dry for another symbol is wrong.

NI is part of the United Kingdom of GB and NI, and as the term for a member of the UK is british then he is more than within his rights to declare himself British as is anyone else in NI.

If you wish to say that people in NI cannot be British without moving to Great Britain then you must be against the GFA and your own countires constitution, you utter fucking retard.

Bit of

Aye, he's working on giving Willie back the high ground.

Well, Miguel Indurain is a good example of the sort of person who regards the IRA members as heroes. There seems to be a lot of them about an all.

Try sharing an Island with the cunts.

The fact that atrocities undertaken by the IRA like the Kingsmill massacre and Teeban bomb are continued to be overlooked is nothing shrot of a disgrace.

Willie just because someone wants to see murdering British soldiers brought to justice does not meant they support the IRA. I would like to see them scumbags who shot innocent people on Bloody Sunday face justice but I am also as ideologically opposed to Sinn Fein/IRA as you can get.

Well considering that the report states that McGuinness was probably holding the gun I doubt he needs to, and the only reason the report says probably is because McGuinness, and other IRA muderers refused to answer all the questions asked of them and thus the whole picture will never actually be ever known.

OK, I will give you a couple.

Kingsmill massacre - 10 innocent victims where taken from a bus and murdered (shot) by the IRA, no-one charged.

Teebane massacre - 8 men where killed by the IRA coming home from work, 6 more where injured. I was in a car the drove past the bomb approx 30mins prior to the incident taken place.

Claudy Bomb - 9 killed by the IRA. No-one charged

Omagh Bomb - 29 killed, no-one charged.

ALL subject to criminal investigations which is what is being proposed here.

They were investigated though, right? Am I right?

Umm...they have. That was the Inquiry. However any soldiers who gave evidence in that hearing were promised immunity from prosecution. So, the only people who could be prosecuted will either be soldiers who did not give evidence to Saville or soldiers who did give evidence but lied, who could be prosecuted for perjury.

This is going nowhere

He said imagine having to share an island with these cunts. More than 4/5s of this island belongs to us. If he has a problem with sharing with the majority well at least he knows he can move back to the island of his ancestors where he will have more in common with them.

Look sorry this is FUCKING BOLLOCKS!

If we now have an amnesty that has let cunts like Macguinnes and Adair walk the streets to demand the heads of the British soldiers if fucking ignorant.

Whoa whoa whoa there Pillock. You claimed the "cases haven't been opened", which is very different to nobody being charged. All those awful crimes were investigated by the police, obviously.

"was probably holding the gun"

Not exactly compelling evidence
And not something which, in Lord Saville's opinion, mitigates the cold blooded murder of people in Derry in 1972 either.

You've changed your mind again ( ) as regards having me on ignore.

Willie the IRA are murderous cunts and the loyalist para military and factions of the English army were complicit cunts giving Unionist intelligence and weapons to slaughter Catholics ffs.
Scoring points is worthless,Cluster fuck really.

I agree with you, personally.

MrJonno, what annoys me is that while hundreds of millions is pumped into Bloody Sunday enquiries and investigations and now 30 detectives, dozens if not hundreds of other cases from the same period are shut down due to lack of funding and manpower.

13 people died, it was a horrible day for NI and thankfully the dead have now had the accusations against them proved false but thousands of others died during the troubles, why are they undeserving of the same treatment.

and closed.

C69 - I'm not scoring points, they just happen to be the key massacres, not including Bloody Sunday, that have occured within Northern Ireland.

Maybe get onto your local MLA and ask?

You claimed they weren't investigated, which is quite obviously horseshit.

I didn't have you down as a complete cunt.

McGuinness was charged/tried/convicted/imprisoned for IRA membership in the 1970's.
He has been dealt with by the judicial system.

The people who murdered 13 innocent people have never been brought to account for their crimes.

Tell me do you support the British Army murdering British citizens?
Or is it because this happened in Derry that the victims are not citizens?

I don't have anyone on ignore on the new bored, not you, not your nazi mate DD, not your sectarian mate Conspicious, not even the likes of Kovana.

With regards to what you said, no one ever said McGuinness holding a machine gun mitigated the actions of the Paras, what I said is we'll never know the full picture of the IRA's action on the day because IRA members like McGuinness point blank refuse to answer many questions asked, one former member of the IRA claimed to have heard McGuinness boasting of shooting at the paras on BS later that week, when asked about this McGuinness refused to comment. Getting a real and clear of view of any event during the troubles is nigh on impossible.

Again I personally think its a bad idea but the reason is that the victims families in other cases had a full and thorough investigation at the time. The fact of the matter is that reopening those cases now would be very unlikely to yield further evidence (CSI and Cold Case aren't real) so more or less everything that can be done HAS been done. This simply isn't the case with Bloody Sunday as there was no initial (or subsequent) criminal investigation.

I did after his carry on after his posts during Ulsters HEC cup run.

You can fuck off too you stupid prick.

Both communities in Northern Ireland have had to take responsibility and face justice for the atrocities that happened during the troubles. Britain, through her armed forces and police played just as big a part without ever facing the same repercussions individually or collectively. Hopefully this criminal investigation will go some way to addressing that issue.

I well recall your tantrum when the Saville report was published on the old board.

You do accept the findings of the report?

We have, our local MLA is a lovely woman and has been very supportive of my family's case, however we have been told point blank that the case is closed due to pack of manpower and funds, now many more millions will be spent and somehow 30 detectives will be magiced up.

It's not a difficult concept that people feel more outraged by crimes against innocent civilians perpetrated by members of an official army of a sovereign state as opposed to crimes perpetrated by illegal paramilitary groups from either side of the divide.

Willy lets look at this from the human aspect surely you can see if you were from a family that had their child or loved one killed by the IRA, a paramilitary group lead by MacGuinness etc and must be able to feel their pain to see this guy walking around shaking hands with heads of State.
I can understand why some people will be repulsed by seeing former terrorists in Govt and why they may feel looking at crimes committed so long ago is crass whilst murderers walk free.
I can empathise but not necessarily agree with their view point.

Fuck off, Von D.

All sides up there were cunts, we all know that. Of course Earl is annoyed about different aspects of it than us.

That's unfortunate, but it's still an issue for NI authorities (be it police, politicians, whoever), I don't know why you're asking anyone here.

I give it 2 pages before von Duggan is suggesting a final solution to the Unionist problem.

My tantrum being that I was delighted for the families of those killed and that the commanders who sent them in should be taken to trial.

get fucked yourself, tedious prick.

Willy look at my post and give an opinion

You're engaging in revisionism now, me old mucker.

You were apoplectic with rage at the time.