Apart from the H1 heading on the page being entitled Junior All Blacks News.

It's nice to be appreciated now and then.

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It's nice to be appreciated now and then.

Aren't they coached by Penney?? Obviously worst U20 coach NZ has ever had, and lets send him to Munster, I know AC would have his balls for such a poor result.

Concerning the name "Junior All Blacks", can anyone else here cast their minds back to the days before it was NZ A? Probably well before, in fact. Weren't the JABs actually an age grade team back then? I forget the age cut-off. Maybe U23s?

Concerning the name "Junior All Blacks", can anyone else here cast their minds back to the days before it was NZ A? Probably well before, in fact. Weren't the JABs actually an age grade team back then? I forget the age cut-off. Maybe U23s?

Concerning the name "Junior All Blacks", can anyone else here cast their minds back to the days before it was NZ A? Probably well before, in fact. Weren't the JABs actually an age grade team back then? I forget the age cut-off. Maybe U23s?

I'm interested on how AC will spin this, somehow Weepu will get the blame and Penney will be absolved of any.

Think of how much shorter this thread would be without jerpy, he reminds me of a kid banging his head against a pillow because he can't get his own way.

Good effort Wales, hopefully you inspire your senior team for tonights game.

Junior All Blacks to return
allblacks.com - 20/12/2004

The Junior All Blacks team, which last assembled in 1984, is returning to the New Zealand rugby programme, undertaking a tour of Australia next year.

The team – which effectively replaces New Zealand A – will be the second national team behind the All Blacks and will have regular annual programmes.

The Junior All Blacks will play three matches in Australia in June next year, with one game against the Queensland Reds Super 12 side and two against Australia A.

New Zealand Rugby Union Deputy Chief Executive Steve Tew said the need for another senior national team was part of the NZRU’s newly-announced High Performance Plan and highlighted by the All Blacks coaches.

He said the All Blacks coaches were keen to have a national team which would expose more New Zealand players to top-class rugby and prepare players in season to step up to the next level if injury or form forced changes to the All Blacks squad.

“The feedback we have received is that the Junior All Blacks side would be hugely beneficial in providing players with a stepping stone to the All Blacks. It is important to note that this team will not be an age grade side,” he said.

Mr Tew said that the Junior All Blacks concept was also strongly supported by the New Zealand Rugby Players’ Association (NZRPA) which believed the team would help to retain the country’s potential future All Blacks.

The coaching and management staff for the new team will be appointed in the new year.

Meanwhile, the NZRU today also released the 2005 schedule for its other national teams.

New Zealand Maori will kick off their international season against Fiji in Suva on Friday 3 June. A week later, on Saturday 11 June, the Maori will take on the British and Irish Lions in Hamilton. As previously announced, the All Blacks will also play a pre-Lions tour match against Fiji in Albany on Friday 10 June.

Three other New Zealand national teams go into the 2005 season as world champions.

The New Zealand Sevens side will defend their Rugby World Cup Sevens crown at the IRB RWC Sevens in Hong Kong from 18-20 March.

The same month, the world champion New Zealand Under 19 side will return to South Africa in a bid to win back-to-back world titles. The tournament starts on 28 March. New Zealand defeated France in this year’s final to win their fourth world championship title in six years.

The New Zealand Colts side will defend their IRB Under 21 World Championship title in Argentina from 9-25 June. The team beat Ireland in the final of this year’s tournament in Scotland.

The programmes for the Black Ferns and New Zealand Divisional XV are yet to be confirmed.

“Next year will be an incredibly busy year with a number of teams assembling at the same time. However, we will be working with all the coaches and management staff involved to ensure the players are not torn between teams and that every team gets the best chance of success,” Mr Tew said.

The schedule for New Zealand national teams is:

Junior All Blacks in Australia
Wednesday 22 June: v Queensland Reds, Ballymore, Brisbane
Sunday 26 June: v Australia A, Canberra Stadium, Canberra
Friday 1 July: v Australia A, Aussie Stadium, Sydney

New Zealand Maori
Friday 3 June: v Fiji, Suva, Fiji
Saturday 11 June: v British and Irish Lions, Waikato Stadium, Hamilton

New Zealand Sevens
18-20 March: IRB Rugby World Cup Sevens, Hong Kong

New Zealand Under 21
9-25 June: IRB Under 21 World Championships, Argentina

New Zealand Under 19
From 28 March - April: IRB Under 19 World Championships, Durban, South Africa

Cheers for the replies on the JAB name. Ted, I looked that up and it was way back in 1959 that Murray Ball was a JAB. Born in 1937 so age was about 22. So the name goes way back.

As I predicted in 2009, this is a very clear case of Deans' man Rob Penny either failing to assert himself and get through to these young kids, or giving a spiteful big fuck you to NZ rugby and her loyal fans prior to his cowardly abandonment for for easy money offshore, and that after the NZRU magnanimously threw Penny a coaching lifeline after his abject failure to secure a S15 contract.

Of course, some people will make up excuses for this pathetic excuse for a man, but we all know what has really happened here.

Aye, but never before used exclusivity for an age grade team. We had, variously, JABs (the second xv) , Colts, Schoolboys and of course ABs. New Zealand A were a later incarnation of the JABs, as I don't think they ever coexisted.

Edit: ta Grizz. But you missed the Varsity and the various Armed forces teams.

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I would have accepted "Baby Blacks" but now I call them "Useless Buggers who can stay in Sth Africa or Go to Wales and learn to play in the rain"

They are the junior all blacks mongtard. They've officially been given the title by your union. Fitzpatrick was talking about it before the game. Talk about a pedantic backfire.

They are the junior all blacks mongtard. They've officially been given the title by your union. Fitzpatrick was talking about it before the game. Talk about a pedantic backfire.

They are the junior all blacks mongtard. They've officially been given the title by your union. Fitzpatrick was talking about it before the game. Talk about a pedantic backfire.

Thats a huge fail, All Blacks was recently given to two other teams besides the National team, and they were the The Maori All Blacks and the Sevens Alll Blacks, so hang your head in shame or edit your post or something because thats embarrasing.

All I can tell you is that before the game Fitzpatrick was spouting something about being so pleased for these guys that they have now officially been given the allblacks name. Personally I couldn't give two shits what silly little names you want to give the side that we put on rollerskates today.

All I can tell you is that before the game Fitzpatrick was spouting something about being so pleased for these guys that they have now officially been given the allblacks name. Personally I couldn't give two shits what silly little names you want to give the side that we put on rollerskates today.

it's the start of a slippery slope. The ABs proper will be next...

Tonight HK ya think?

it's in my tea leaves, I tell ya...