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Defendants use the race card.


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Nine men who ran a child sexual exploitation ring in Greater Manchester have been jailed.

The men from Rochdale and Oldham, who exploited girls as young as 13 were given sentences ranging from four to 19 years.

They were found guilty of offences including rape and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with a child.

Liverpool Crown Court heard the group plied five victims with drink and drugs and "passed them around" for sex.

The girls were abused at two takeaway restaurants in the Heywood area of Rochdale by the men aged between 24 and 59. The takeaways are now under new management.

Judge Gerald Clifton said the men, eight of Pakistani origin and one from Afghanistan, treated the girls "as though they were worthless and beyond respect".

The judge added: "One of the factors leading to that was the fact that they were not part of your community or religion.

"Some of you, when arrested, said it (the prosecution) was triggered by race. That is nonsense.

"What triggered this prosecution was your lust and greed."

The 59-year-old ringleader, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was also convicted of two rapes, aiding and abetting rape, sexual assault and trafficking for the purposes of sexual exploitation.

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His defence barrister, Simon Nichol, said his client "has objected from the start for being tried by an all white jury and subsequent events have confirmed his fears".

"He believes his convictions have nothing to do with justice but result from the faith and the race of the defendants.

"He further believes that society failed the girls in this case before the girls even met them and now that failure is being blamed on a weak minority group."

But sentencing the ringleader to 19 years in prison, the judge called him an "unpleasant and hypocritical bully" who had ordered a 15-year-old girl to have sex with takeaway worker Kabeer Hassan as a birthday "treat".

Hassan, 25, of Lacrosse Avenue, Oldham, was sentenced to nine years for rape and three years, concurrently, for the conspiracy conviction.

Taxi driver, Abdul Aziz, 41, a married father-of-three, of Armstrong Hurst Close, Rochdale, also convicted of trafficking for sexual exploitation, received a nine year sentence.

Aziz was said in court to have taken over as the main trafficker of girls.

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Married father-of-five Abdul Rauf, 43, of Darley Road, Rochdale, also convicted of trafficking a child within the UK for sexual exploitation, received six years.

The religious studies teacher at a local mosque asked a 15-year-victim if she had any younger friends and would drive some of the girls to other men who would use them for sex.

Adil Khan, 42, of Oswald Street, Rochdale also convicted of trafficking a child within the UK for sexual exploitation, received eight years.

Khan, who is married with one child, fathered the child of a 13-year-old victim.

Mohammed Sajid, 35, of Jephys Street, Rochdale, also convicted of one count of rape, sexual activity with a girl under 16 and trafficking for sexual exploitation, was jailed for 12 years.

He will be deported back to Pakistan following the conclusion of his sentence.

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Mohammed Amin, 45, of Falinge Road, Falinge, was a driver for Eagle Taxis for 14 years and was known as "Car Zero".

He was also convicted of sexual assault and received a five-year jail term.

Hamid Safi, 22, of no fixed address, was also convicted of trafficking girls for the purposes of sexual exploitation and sentenced to four years.

He sneaked into the UK on a lorry in 2008 and claimed asylum. He will be deported to Afghanistan at the end of his sentence.

Abdul Qayyum, 44, of Ramsay Street, Rochdale, was jailed for five years. He was a driver for Streamline Taxis in Middleton, Greater Manchester, and was known by the name "Tiger".



Up to 50 more Asian men are thought to also be involved.


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:17 pm 
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I see Britain has been increasingly enjoying the "benefits" of multiculturalism for the last 15 years or so now.

Gang-raping children seems to be joining knife-crime and looting in popularity recently.

Broken Britain.


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:19 pm 
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That must be related to the Arab Spring - a sort of spiritual cross pollination.

And - the girls' parents should be locked up and the keys thrown away.


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:22 pm 
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What I found interesting about the case (other than utter revulsion) was the Police saying it wasn't based on race or religion and a senior member of the Pakistani community saying it was.


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There were similar cases in Sydney Australia where Lebanese (I think) gangs targeted and raped white girls.

Truly tragic.


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:25 pm 
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Those arguments just make my skin crawl...So these girls were failed by society and therefore were fair game to be passed around and raped. Evil bastards.


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:29 pm 
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There were similar cases in Sydney Australia where Lebanese (I think) gangs targeted and raped white girls.

Truly tragic.


They (the perpetrators) reportedly reckon that white girls are born whores, without morals and should not be considered worthy of any respect.

A recipe for racial hatred and revenge, it seems to me.


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There were similar cases in Sydney Australia where Lebanese (I think) gangs targeted and raped white girls.

Truly tragic.


They (the perpetrators) reportedly reckon that white girls are born whores, without morals and should not be considered worthy of any respect.

A recipe for racial hatred and revenge, it seems to me.[/quote]

Yep this is one of the catalysts for the Cronulla riots I beleive.


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These men will now hopefully be exposed to Britain's finest, in jail, and may receive a few lessons in "corrective rape" (maybe from ex-BNP inmates?)


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Those arguments just make my skin crawl...So these girls were failed by society and therefore were fair game to be passed around and raped. Evil bastards.


Reckon they should be given longer sentences. Absolute scum.


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:34 pm 
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These men will now hopefully be exposed to Britain's finest, in jail, and may receive a few lessons in "corrective rape" (maybe from ex-BNP inmates?)


Erm...I would guess that they'll be placed into the "islamic" wings for their protection where no doubt they will find god again and grow the appropriate beards. They will be further radicalised and then set free from prison after serving half their sentences.


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That's what you get when your country is invaded. The end of a certain culture and tradition.


This used to be a Catholic privilege. :x


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:35 pm 
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These men will now hopefully be exposed to Britain's finest, in jail, and may receive a few lessons in "corrective rape" (maybe from ex-BNP inmates?)


:lol: :lol: :lol: One can only hope so, but I doubt if ex-BNP or current people of that ilk would use them as their sex toys. A bit of rough play maybe.


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By the way, where does it say the girls were white?


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Nick Griffin nearly caused the case to collapse by tweeting the verdicts because they'd been delivered. This is being investigated and one of the defence lawyers is questioning the integrity of the jury. Could be a basis for an appeal or retrial perhaps? Griffin is an utter twat.


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:40 pm 
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By the way, where does it say the girls were white?

Its been in the news for quite some time, they were


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His defence barrister, Simon Nichol, said his client "has objected from the start for being tried by an all white jury and subsequent events have confirmed his fears".

"He believes his convictions have nothing to do with justice but result from the faith and the race of the defendants.

"He further believes that society failed the girls in this case before the girls even met them and now that failure is being blamed on a weak minority group."

Even the most heinous bastards are entitled to a good legal defence, but you have to wonder what would be going through the mind of the poor bastard given the job of defending them. Imagine being appointed to that case? Can Nichol really have believed that nonsense about being his clients being victims of their race and faith in a case like that?


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These men will now hopefully be exposed to Britain's finest, in jail, and may receive a few lessons in "corrective rape" (maybe from ex-BNP inmates?)


Erm...I would guess that they'll be placed into the "islamic" wings for their protection where no doubt they will find god again and grow the appropriate beards. They will be further radicalised and then set free from prison after serving half their sentences.


So, we can take that being a convicted Asian racial paedophile in Britain means receiving "basic" fundamentalist training as well as acquiring of a reputation as a holy man ?


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Wilson's Toffee wrote:
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These men will now hopefully be exposed to Britain's finest, in jail, and may receive a few lessons in "corrective rape" (maybe from ex-BNP inmates?)


Erm...I would guess that they'll be placed into the "islamic" wings for their protection where no doubt they will find god again and grow the appropriate beards. They will be further radicalised and then set free from prison after serving half their sentences.


So, we can take that being a convicted Asian racial paedophile in Britain means receiving "basic" fundamentalist training as well as acquiring of a reputation as a holy man ?


Eh?


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His defence barrister, Simon Nichol, said his client "has objected from the start for being tried by an all white jury and subsequent events have confirmed his fears".

"He believes his convictions have nothing to do with justice but result from the faith and the race of the defendants.

"He further believes that society failed the girls in this case before the girls even met them and now that failure is being blamed on a weak minority group."

Even the most heinous bastards are entitled to a good legal defence, but you have to wonder what would be going through the mind of the poor bastard given the job of defending them. Imagine being appointed to that case? Can Nichol really have believed that nonsense about being his clients being victims of their race and faith in a case like that?


I guess it must be a bit the same feeling as the one the guy who negotiated the contract for Mustard Gas with Saddam Hussein experienced.


Or not?


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Lawyer in attempting to defend his clients shock!

I suppose you would have just lined them up against a wall Togger?


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It's a shame and rather unfair that the word "Asian" is used - this applies to just about everyone east of Ankara.


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Lawyer in attempting to defend his clients shock!

I suppose you would have just lined them up against a wall Togger?




What would Sharia Law do?


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The 59-year-old ringleader, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was also convicted of two rapes, aiding and abetting rape, sexual assault and trafficking for the purposes of sexual exploitation.


What legal reasons could that be? All the others have been named, and their photographs released. :?


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The 59-year-old ringleader, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was also convicted of two rapes, aiding and abetting rape, sexual assault and trafficking for the purposes of sexual exploitation.


What legal reasons could that be? All the others have been named, and their photographs released. :?




He's probably a Respect Councillor.


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This article was reproduced on the Fairfax online media. I was disgusted.


I was shocked of the use of "Asian" to refer to the alleged rapists, and "white" to refer to the alleged victims and deemed that these terms were used solely to incite race hate and sell copy.


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The 59-year-old ringleader, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was also convicted of two rapes, aiding and abetting rape, sexual assault and trafficking for the purposes of sexual exploitation.


What legal reasons could that be? All the others have been named, and their photographs released. :?


Further cases pending maybe?


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This article was reproduced on the Fairfax online media. I was disgusted.


I was shocked of the use of "Asian" to refer to the alleged rapists, and "white" to refer to the alleged victims and deemed that these terms were used solely to incite race hate and sell copy.




We deem you an idiot.


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This article was reproduced on the Fairfax online media. I was disgusted.


I was shocked of the use of "Asian" to refer to the alleged rapists, and "white" to refer to the alleged victims and deemed that these terms were used solely to incite race hate and sell copy.




We deem you an idiot.


Fuck yourself, arsehole. You're a troll-joke on this forum.

Honest question, is it normal practise in the UK media to refer to rapists and rape victims by their ethnic backgrounds or the colour of their skin?


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Lawyer in attempting to defend his clients shock!

I suppose you would have just lined them up against a wall Togger?




What would Sharia Law do?


Never met her. Is she an ex of yours. x(


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Ali's Choice wrote:
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This article was reproduced on the Fairfax online media. I was disgusted.


I was shocked of the use of "Asian" to refer to the alleged rapists, and "white" to refer to the alleged victims and deemed that these terms were used solely to incite race hate and sell copy.




We deem you an idiot.


Fuck yourself, arsehole. You're a troll-joke on this forum.

Honest question, is it normal practise in the UK media to refer to rapists and rape victims by their ethnic backgrounds or the colour of their skin?


There was a guy dressed as a smurf raped in Birmingham a few years back. Not once did they refer to him as being "blue". Total double standards.


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Here is the article in Australia's Fairfax media. "Asian" rapists and "white" victims. Not a hint of race-hate being incited at all.

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Racism fears 'left Asian gang free to rape girls'
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May 9, 2012 - 3:43PM

Eight of nine men convicted of a variety of offences connected with a child sexual exploitqation ring: (L-R top row) Adil Khan, Mohammed Amin, Abdul Rauf, Mohammed Sajid (L-R bottom row) Abdul Aziz, Abdul Qayyum, Hamid Safi and Kabeer Hassan. The ninth man convicted could not be identified for legal reasons. Photo: Greater Manchester Police
Police and social workers in England have been accused of failing to investigate a South Asian paedophile gang for fear of being perceived as racist, leaving the men free to prey on up to 50 white girls.

Nine men from Rochdale, Greater Manchester, were convicted of abusing five vulnerable teenagers after plying them with alcohol and small sums of money.

The true number of victims who were "passed around" by the gang was likely to have been nearer 50, police said.

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Mohammed Amin ... guilty of running a child exploitation ring. Photo: Getty Images
Greater Manchester Police and the Crown Prosecution Service apologised after they failed to bring the case of the first victim, known as Girl A, to trial following her initial cry for help in August 2008.

One 13-year-old victim became pregnant and had the child aborted while another was raped by 20 men in one night, Liverpool Crown Court heard. Complaints to social workers and the police were ignored because they were "petrified of being called racist", Ann Cryer, the former Labour MP for Keighley, said.

Mrs Cryer, who has campaigned to bring the issue of Asian sex gangs to light, said the girls had been "betrayed" and condemned to "untold misery" by the police and social services.


Child sex ring ... Greater Manchester Police Assistant Chief Constable Steve Heywood addresses the media after the trial. Photo: AP
"This is an absolute scandal. They were petrified of being called racist and so reverted to the default of political correctness," she said. "They had a greater fear of being perceived in that light than in dealing with the issues in front of them."

Girl A told police that she had been raped and provided DNA evidence from her attacker. The CPS twice decided not to prosecute him. As a result, the 15 year-old's abuse continued. At its height she was driven to flats and houses to be raped by up to five men a night, four or five days a week. She was singled out because she was white, vulnerable and under-age.

Her ordeal only ended when she became pregnant and her teachers became concerned by the number of Asian men picking her up from school.

During her initial complaint, Girl A gave a six-hour interview in which she provided police with details about her abusers and where the attacks took place. Crucially, she handed officers underwear that proved she had been raped by two men in a single attack. "I hoped they were going to do something and it would stop," she said.

"But it just carried on. It just started again with different men and more men this time, and that's when it started becoming up to five men a day."

Kabeer Hassan, Abdul Aziz, Abdul Rauf, Mohammed Sajid, Adil Khan, Abdul Qayyum, Mohammed Amin, Hamid Safi and a 59-year-old man, known only as Defendant X for legal reasons, were found guilty of running a child exploitation ring by a jury at Liverpool Crown Court.

Greater Manchester Police is being investigated by the IPCC over the failings in its first investigation in 2008.

When the force finally passed a file to the Criminal Prosecution Service the following year, a Crown lawyer decided not to charge anyone because he said Girl A would not be a sufficiently credible witness to put before a jury. A second CPS lawyer backed that opinion.

It was only after social workers noticed an upsurge in cases of child grooming that police reinvestigated.

It can now be reported that the trial was delayed by two weeks when two Asian barristers quit the case due to intimidation by far-Right groups outside Liverpool Crown Court.

Assistant Chief Constable Steve Heywood acknowledged that officers could have dealt with the case "better than we did". But he denied that the girl's complaints had been "brushed under the carpet" due to racism fears. "At the time we did what we thought was best," he said. "We have learned a lot of lessons."

Steve Garner, head of children's services at Rochdale council, denied that his department had let down the teenager.

"I think it's really important to remember that what we know now and what we knew in 2008 is very, very different and what we have done is put the lessons in place," he said.

Rochdale's MP, Simon Danczuk, said: "What's become clear is that if police had acted seriously on these concerns in 2008 many of the victims of this appalling case would not have had to go through such horrific trauma."

The defendants were all found guilty of conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children under 16. Aziz, Khan, Rauf, Sajid, Safi and Defendant X were convicted of trafficking for sexual exploitation. Defendant X, Hassan and Sajid were found guilty of rape. Sajid was convicted of sexual activity with a child. Amin was also convicted of sexual assault. Defendant X was convicted of aiding and abetting a rape and one count of sexual assault. They will be sentenced today.

The Daily Telegraph, London



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/racism-fear ... z1uNV2H8Ed


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Lawyer in attempting to defend his clients shock!

I suppose you would have just lined them up against a wall Togger?




What would Sharia Law do?


Never met her. Is she an ex of yours. x(


Let's see you answer the question, for a change.


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This article was reproduced on the Fairfax online media. I was disgusted.


I was shocked of the use of "Asian" to refer to the alleged rapists, and "white" to refer to the alleged victims and deemed that these terms were used solely to incite race hate and sell copy.




We deem you an idiot.


Fuck yourself, arsehole. You're a troll-joke on this forum.

Honest question, is it normal practise in the UK media to refer to rapists and rape victims by their ethnic backgrounds or the colour of their skin?

This is a racially based crime, as well as a sexual based crime, make no mistake. The lead fuck-heads blatherings confirm this fact.


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Ali's Choice wrote:
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This article was reproduced on the Fairfax online media. I was disgusted.


I was shocked of the use of "Asian" to refer to the alleged rapists, and "white" to refer to the alleged victims and deemed that these terms were used solely to incite race hate and sell copy.




We deem you an idiot.


Fuck yourself, arsehole. You're a troll-joke on this forum.

Honest question, is it normal practise in the UK media to refer to rapists and rape victims by their ethnic backgrounds or the colour of their skin?


No it's not really. In fact some outlets will go out of their way NOT to mention the race of perpetrators. The fact that the story is so explicit in this case is probably because the crimes were deemed to be racially aggravated, I'd suggest.


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This article was reproduced on the Fairfax online media. I was disgusted.


I was shocked of the use of "Asian" to refer to the alleged rapists, and "white" to refer to the alleged victims and deemed that these terms were used solely to incite race hate and sell copy.



You are aware that members of their own community have stood up and said they did this because of the girls colour?


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Ali's Choice wrote:
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This article was reproduced on the Fairfax online media. I was disgusted.


I was shocked of the use of "Asian" to refer to the alleged rapists, and "white" to refer to the alleged victims and deemed that these terms were used solely to incite race hate and sell copy.




We deem you an idiot.


Fuck yourself, arsehole. You're a troll-joke on this forum.

Honest question, is it normal practise in the UK media to refer to rapists and rape victims by their ethnic backgrounds or the colour of their skin?




You'd probably be referred to as a 'hori chicken-runner' by the British media.


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Lawyer in attempting to defend his clients shock!

I suppose you would have just lined them up against a wall Togger?





What would Sharia Law do?


Give them an extra virgin?


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This article was reproduced on the Fairfax online media. I was disgusted.


I was shocked of the use of "Asian" to refer to the alleged rapists, and "white" to refer to the alleged victims and deemed that these terms were used solely to incite race hate and sell copy.



You are aware that members of their own community have stood up and said they did this because of the girls colour?


The rapists are Asian. Their photographs and names are certainly suggestive of this. The victims are white.

BTW, there is nothing alleged about this. Convicted paedophille rapists.


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Lawyer in attempting to defend his clients shock!

I suppose you would have just lined them up against a wall Togger?




What would Sharia Law do?


Never met her. Is she an ex of yours. x(


Let's see you answer the question, for a change.


That was a serious question? I haven't the faintest clue, nor does it have any relevance, they are being tried in a British court. :?


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