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 Post subject: Just Curious??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:42 am 
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No desire to prompt a shit fight but why wasn't Manu T red carded for his tackle on Care - it seemed to tick all the boxes for a dangerous tackle?? a la Warburton and that other one I can't remmeber that kicked up a storm!!

ps I am glad he wasn't or we would forever have to live with the you only won it against 14 tag!!


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 Post subject: Re: Just Curious??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:43 am 
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Bicurious?


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 Post subject: Re: Just Curious??
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Barnes shouted at the time, "not past the horizontal". Which on the replayes looked incorrect.

Manu was very lucky.


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 Post subject: Re: Just Curious??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:48 am 
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Manu mistakes "take care when tackling" instruction.


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 Post subject: Re: Just Curious??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:21 pm 
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theo wrote:
Barnes shouted at the time, "not past the horizontal". Which on the replayes looked incorrect.

Manu was very lucky.



Yup I heard that and thought well clearly that is bollocks - he also said it was not dangerous? Surely it has been decidided that that sort of tip tackle is dangerous and it isn't his call.


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 Post subject: Re: Just Curious??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:30 pm 
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I believe Barnes said 'it's only Danny Care the drunk little midget' so i think it was OK.

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 Post subject: Re: Just Curious??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:31 pm 
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kiwigreg369 wrote:
I believe Barnes said 'it's only Danny Care the drunk little midget' so i think it was OK.

KG



Did you think Youngs outshone Care??


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 Post subject: Re: Just Curious??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:34 pm 
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On breaks yes, but general play and balance no (care better).

I thought Youngs looked better than i've seen him play recently although some of his passing i though was rubbish (too high). Care played well on the back of a good pack and in my opinion should start for England.

The fact that Ford looked like a young grant fox putting the ball in the air all the time didn't help the Leicester backline.

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 Post subject: Re: Just Curious??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:36 pm 
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Does anyone have a clip of it?


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 Post subject: Re: Just Curious??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:42 pm 
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EF

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... enham.html

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 Post subject: Re: Just Curious??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:56 pm 
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It would appear that Barnes thought that, although Care was lifted into the air, he wasn't tipped over the vertical and that, because Tuilagi kept hold of him, he had satisfied the requirement to return him safely to the ground.

The difference with the world cup tackle was that Warburton dropped the player rather than returning him to the ground.

The tackler has a responsibility to make sure the tacklee is returned to the ground safely. Tuilagi arguably did so, Warburton did not.

Thought it could have been a yellow card myself and that Tuilagi was lucky to get away with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Just Curious??
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:07 pm 
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Lobby wrote:
It would appear that Barnes thought that, although Care was lifted into the air, he wasn't tipped over the vertical and that, because Tuilagi kept hold of him, he had satisfied the requirement to return him safely to the ground.

The difference with the world cup tackle was that Warburton dropped the player rather than returning him to the ground.

The tackler has a responsibility to make sure the tacklee is returned to the ground safely. Tuilagi arguably did so, Warburton did not.

Thought it could have been a yellow card myself and that Tuilagi was lucky to get away with it.



I know but there was another one more recently debated on here - he definitely tipped him and completed the tackle so not sure he can be deemed to have returned him safely - I thought at the time that will get cited as it certainly needing looking at for consistency if nothing else.


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