Not too long ago we had f all going on at 10, it is a lovely problem to have. Lets hope the Goose is not another sicknote ala Andre Pretorius.

The best part of it is that Lambie played 15 all his life before the Sharks decide he should play 10. Wont be long before he is also heading north.

Or inside centre...

Maybe they should go full Burden on him and move him to the forwards?

I've been a vocal critic of Hougaard in the past two years simply because I picked him for success very early on, but he hadn't done much in the past 2-3 years when given the chance. I remember arguing about this with LOTG during last year's world cup when I said Hougaard wasn't doing enough to control the game, and that his kicking game was dire. This season the kid is suddenly controlling things very well and it could be due to the extended run he's getting at scrumhalf. His kicking has improved immensely and so has his decision-making.

Actually no. At school he played both 10 and 15, but got chosen at 15 for the Craven week side. The plan was always to ease him in gradually from 15 to 10.

Not content with hectoring us about some Paarl nobodies, you even go on about our own players now. In fact he's not been "a fullback his entire life", he played a few positions at school including flyhalf. Was injured for a season and came back as a fullback for his last two years.

Very clearly flyhalf is his best position, hence where he should play. Do you think JP Pietersen should play 15 because he did as a kid?

You got shown your arse on Sharksworld the other day saying all the same stuff. His best position is 10, moving him from there is moving him out of position. Because that's where he's going to be playing, the 10 jersey at the Sharks is locked down as his.

This is the same shit that was pulled with Frans and Ruan. When it was the Springboks that shoved them all over the shop, even to the extent of playing them from the bench on the wing.

Exactly.

Ja. The fortunes of sport.

You miss, you lose.

Like Lambie with crucial kicks at goal, for the Springboks.

This is the bullshit reasoning that delivered Morne Steyn as our flyhalf.

Is this still about a penalty miss at the end of the Scotland game in 2010, which wouldn't have made any difference to the result anyway? I can't think of any other time. You do realise the margin of loss was greater than 3 points, Lambie was given (an entirely pointless and damaging) run in the last 5 minutes. Who knows why, if he had started maybe things would've been different. Gio Aplon and Zane Kirchner started that one btw, at least one of them widely supported on here. The 9/10/12/13 combo, was also widely supported on here and still is - Hoohaa Jr/Morne/Jean/Frans. The 9/10 were epsecially shithouse that day.

Yet Lambie got all the blame, for missing a kick which made no difference to the result. I recall having to point out to SorCer we lost 21-17 and could he count? No matter the perception stuck.

Unless you're counting a desperate drop goal attempt from the halfway on the 65th minute of a quarter final loss? Good on him for actually trying to win I say. Pity no one else in the team had the brain to maneuver and take further shots.

Ruan suffered the same fate. A whole '08 EOYT and the 1st Lions test with one (or was it two?) shots missed at goal. 2nd test happens, everyone forgets about all that and suddenly we're lumbered with Morne.

The criteria for Springbok flyhalf selection is miss a kick and you're gone? Unless you're a bonehead playing for an inland team, then we forgive you?

We have done this before. So you are on Sharksworld nowadays. Whats your name there?

Nope.

So what was you doing there?

As it turned out, chuckling at you.

And don't forget Beauden Barrett of the Hurricanes.

His kicking is not so hot, but he plays a wonderful running and distribution game.

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2007 KZN Craven Week
Craven Week

1 J Mkhize (Westville)
2 M Hadebe (Westville)
3 L Albertse (Michaelhouse)
4 K Beeton (Glenwood)
5 JC Astle (Pionier)
6 F Kleinhans (Glenwood)
7 B Stander (Sharks)
8 K Adam (Maritzburg College)
9 A Arlow (Glenwood)
10 S Pearton (Glenwood)
11 B Kunene (Westville)
12 R de Bruin (Michaelhouse)
13 A Zungu (Glenwood)
14 R Combrink (Michaelhouse)
15 P Lambie (Michaelhouse)
16 S Malton (Glenwood)
17 N Schonert (Maritzburg College)
18 S Smith (Glenwood)
19 M Webster (DHS)
20 O Naikin (Michaelhouse)
21 M Mjajubana (Maritzburg College)
22 S Khumalo (Michaelhouse)

Manager: Eugene Dove (Fairvale)
Coaches: Tony Richter (Hilton), Barend Steyn (Kearsney)

2008
Craven Week

1 J Mkhize (Westville)
2 M Hadebe (Westville)
3 L Albertse (Michaelhouse)
4 K Beeton (Glenwood)
5 JC Astle (Pionier)
6 F Kleinhans (Glenwood)
7 B Stander (Sharks)
8 K Adam (Maritzburg College)
9 A Arlow (Glenwood)
10 S Pearton (Glenwood)
11 B Kunene (Westville)
12 R de Bruin (Michaelhouse)
13 A Zungu (Glenwood)
14 R Combrink (Michaelhouse)
15 P Lambie (Michaelhouse)
16 S Malton (Glenwood)
17 N Schonert (Maritzburg College)
18 S Smith (Glenwood)
19 M Webster (DHS)
20 O Naikin (Michaelhouse)
21 M Mjajubana (Maritzburg College)
22 S Khumalo (Michaelhouse)

Manager: Eugene Dove (Fairvale)
Coaches: Tony Richter (Hilton), Barend Steyn (Kearsney)

SA Schools team
2008
SA Schools Team 2008

15. Patrick Lambie (KZN)
14. Tythan Adams (WP)
13. Wandile Mjekeyu (Golden Lions)
12. Francois Venter (Free State)
11. Abednego Mamushi (Mpumalanga)
10. Francois du Toit (Free State)
09. Chuma Faas (Eastern Province)
08. CJ Stander (SWD, captain)
07. Petrus Uys (Golden Lions)
06. Helmut Lehmann (WP)
05. Niel Kapp (SWD)
04. Andries Ferreira (Blue Bulls)
03. Neetlingh Gerricke (SWD)
02. Shaun Malton (KZN)
01. Ruan Smith (WP)

Replacements

16. Gareth Topkin (WP)
17. Njabulo Mkize (KZN)
18. Mlungisi Bali (Blue Bulls)
19. Siyamthanda Kolisi (EP)
20. Sinovuyo Nyoka (Border)
21. Elton Jantjies (Golden Lions)
22. Garth April (Boland)

He played in 15 for the Sharks S14 team for the 2010 season with Pienaar and Andy Goode in 10. Played 15 in the 2010 CC after they tried Meyer, du Mond and debut in 10 on 7 August 2010 against the Lions.

Ja and still try and screwed up facts and have his own shite house head like the Nipper troller.

Plumtree and the Sharks have bolted the Ulster team with his playing players out of position and he is busy doing the same thing with Patrick Lambie.

You can be so glad Jack van der Schyff played fullback

Nice having you back...poes.

Morné is still the best flyhalf in South Africa, Goossen and Jantjies have a bit to go, Lambie should specialise on fullback, from where he can link with Francois Steyn and/or Goossen and the wings. Clear as day, cannot imagine why you should want it otherwise.

As for the bolded part of your rant - no way Meyer is going to select Lambie as his first player in the team, even less as Springbok flyhalf. Reason why he will be dropped is his dodgy kicking record (especially under pressure, something he has form for)
Exactly the opposite from Percy Montgomery, who was selected because of his dependable boot.

Not because of his first language, but I can understand if you suffer from insecurities, after all you have to endure all the snide remarks of the Poms whose country you live in and whose hospitality you enjoy, probably on an UK subsidy

Your Sharks bias always shines through.

I heard that as well. First test, JdV/JdJ and then bring Frans in for tests 2 and 3.

I think so, I rate him highly. Has pace, power, great boot and excellent game management for his age.

Ox - Lambie is a very good player and will be a Bok for years but Goosen seems to have the "it" factor that differentiates the very good players from the really special ones. We were all very excited about the Lambie prospect hoping he'd be the next Frans Steyn...he wasn't. Frans is in a class of his own and Goosen seems to be as well. Lambie is very good though.

Lambie has been solid at 10 for the Sharks this season but nothing special.

10. Goosen
12. Frans
15. Lambie

Is there a Force vs Cheetahs thread?

Nee Boetie, welkom terug, Nipper is to kaksleg to open one and was trolling the Stormers to lose against the Force , so I decided to use the Stormers Force thread for this match aswell.
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Nizaam Carr played Nipper and Swart to silence last week. They cant take this. and is suur poeier poeste all week.

All hail the mighty PB!

I am still waiting for your confesion, suur poeier soutie poes.

Thanks Oom, think it was good to lay low after the Cheetahs performance last week. Pretty sad that Boere Cooper will be out for 4 months, was looking forward to see him in the green and gold.

So it is the stompie fans now idolizing a vrystaater before he's ever played a test.

Message to Oom PB and his merry carnival of clowns - why don't we just wait until he's played a couple tests before we annoint him the Bok flyhalf for the next 10 years.

P.S. Oom, your stats of Lambie's positions in Craven Week highlight what Ox and Beaver stated -- what was your point?

what exactly has Lambie done in the Bok #10 shirt for the Sharkies to claim he's the next coming?

To start, he has at least played for the Boks. How many minutes has he played in the Bok #10 Saffer? Go ahead and provide your one-eyed analysis of his performance in those minutes while I chuckle at your incoming response...

Surely JJ Harmse is talking crap here?

Chuckle all you want boet but he's done nothing to say that he deserves the 10 shirt. We all said, "let's see how Goosen does in Super Rugby" - well he's done bloody well topping just about every positive stat category in the tournament and shown more in the toughest comp in the world at 10 than Lambie has in all his starts at 10 so far. Don't get me wrong, I rate Lambie very highly but right now 3rd in the #10 pecking order and 1st as a 15.

Having a bad morning saffer

Not at all, just trying keep the Sharks fans and this clown in your boxes. Habana has been the form wing in SA by quite some distance and showed more at 13 in one game than JPP has this season there so far.

Springer, the sad truth is that Lambie just doesn't have the real goods. I rate him and had hi hopes but Goosen's pedigree is better. And the Steyn show this morning was klarse. I've never seen Lambie run a game like that.

Morne and Goosen before Lambie at 10 in case you were wondering who I thought was ahead of him.

But Ox said Morne can't play outside SA or when FdP isn't at 9...