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The typical pay of bosses at the majority of the UK's largest publicly listed companies rose 11% last year to £3.65m, according to research done on behalf of the BBC.

Manifest, the adviser to shareholders, calculated the research based on data from the 60% of FTSE 100 companies who have published their annual reports.

The news comes amid shareholder revolts over high executive pay.

On Tuesday, insurance firm Aviva said boss Andrew Moss will be leaving.

Pay at firms in the UK in general rose by just 1.1%, according to the Manifest calculations.

While pay rose at big corporations for chief executives and executive chairmen, shares of FTSE 100 firms shed 6.6% of their value last year.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17996094


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FFS sick hearing that fucking line. :x

Exec pay has been increasing like that for years and shareholders approved it then. Of course their pay is ridiculous but you could argue their job is a hell of a lot harder now than it was during the boom years when share holders were happy to sign off on silly sums.


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FFS sick hearing that fucking line. :x

Exec pay has been increasing like that for years and shareholders approved it then. Of course their pay is ridiculous but you could argue their job is a hell of a lot harder now than it was during the boom years when share holders were happy to sign off on silly sums.

You're a Daily Mail reader right Boobs?


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Boobs not Moobs wrote:
FFS sick hearing that fucking line. :x

Exec pay has been increasing like that for years and shareholders approved it then. Of course their pay is ridiculous but you could argue their job is a hell of a lot harder now than it was during the boom years when share holders were happy to sign off on silly sums.

You're a Daily Mail reader right Boobs?


Your point being?


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It's also fuckin stupid because it misses the point that their comp packakges are mainly because they are hitting performance targets and the value of their stock awards ( a big chunk of their comp) are increasing as the markets improve from the previous few years of carnage. This is a feature not a bug.


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Boobs not Moobs wrote:
theaxe wrote:
Boobs not Moobs wrote:
FFS sick hearing that fucking line. :x

Exec pay has been increasing like that for years and shareholders approved it then. Of course their pay is ridiculous but you could argue their job is a hell of a lot harder now than it was during the boom years when share holders were happy to sign off on silly sums.

You're a Daily Mail reader right Boobs?


Your point being?

I was asking a question. Care to answer it?


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theaxe wrote:
Boobs not Moobs wrote:
theaxe wrote:
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FFS sick hearing that fucking line. :x

Exec pay has been increasing like that for years and shareholders approved it then. Of course their pay is ridiculous but you could argue their job is a hell of a lot harder now than it was during the boom years when share holders were happy to sign off on silly sums.

You're a Daily Mail reader right Boobs?


Your point being?

I was asking a question. Care to answer it?


I check out all the newspaper sites each day apart from Express. (It's actually part of my Job).

WTF has that got to do with anything.


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The problem is not the big wigs taking a bonus, it's them taking a bonus while the small fry get fuck all whilst also hitting their targets.


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The scourge of our wealth divide

The annual Sunday Times Rich List yields four very important conclusions for the governance of Britain (Report, Weekend, 28 April). It shows that the richest 1,000 persons, just 0.003% of the adult population, increased their wealth over the last three years by £155bn. That is enough for themselves alone to pay off the entire current UK budget deficit and still leave them with £30bn to spare.

Second, this mega-rich elite, containing many of the bankers and hedge fund and private equity operators who caused the financial crash in the first place, have not been made subject to any tax payback whatever commensurate to their gains. Some 77% of the budget deficit is being recouped by public expenditure cuts and benefit cuts, and only 23% is being repaid by tax increases. More than half of the tax increases is accounted for by the VAT rise which hits the poorest hardest. None of the tax increases is specifically aimed at the super-rich.

Third, despite the biggest slump for nearly a century, these 1,000 richest are now sitting on wealth greater even than at the height of the boom just before the crash. Their wealth now amounts to £414bn, equivalent to more than a third of Britain's entire GDP. They include 77 billionaires and 23 others, each possessing more than £750m.

The increase in wealth of this richest 1,000 has been £315bn over the last 15 years. If they were charged capital gains tax on this at the current 28% rate, it would yield £88bn, enough to pay off 70% of the entire deficit. It seems however that Osborne takes the notorious view of the New York heiress, Leonora Helmsley: "Only the little people pay taxes."
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I got a cheque from IR today, I paid £26 too much tax last year apparently.


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theaxe wrote:
Boobs not Moobs wrote:
theaxe wrote:
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FFS sick hearing that fucking line. :x

Exec pay has been increasing like that for years and shareholders approved it then. Of course their pay is ridiculous but you could argue their job is a hell of a lot harder now than it was during the boom years when share holders were happy to sign off on silly sums.

You're a Daily Mail reader right Boobs?


Your point being?

I was asking a question. Care to answer it?




Do you know what the Daily Mail's line on excessive pay is per chance? Your question implies you don't.


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The axe is out of his depth on rugby (his best subject), the idea of politics and the uk media well that's never ganna be good.

Re the report: brokem intl industry, the bankers at least have taken restraint. Well done stephen hestor.


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The annual Sunday Times Rich List yields four very important conclusions for the governance of Britain (Report, Weekend, 28 April). It shows that the richest 1,000 persons, just 0.003% of the adult population, increased their wealth over the last three years by £155bn. That is enough for themselves alone to pay off the entire current UK budget deficit and still leave them with £30bn to spare.




It would clear the deficit for ONE year. What happens next year? Then the year after? Then the year after that?


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The axe is out of his depth on rugby (his best subject), the idea of politics and the uk media well that's never ganna be good.

Re the report: brokem intl industry, the bankers at least have taken restraint. Well done stephen hestor.


TBF they had to be forced by the media and shareholders.


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The scourge of our wealth divide

The annual Sunday Times Rich List yields four very important conclusions for the governance of Britain (Report, Weekend, 28 April). It shows that the richest 1,000 persons, just 0.003% of the adult population, increased their wealth over the last three years by £155bn. That is enough for themselves alone to pay off the entire current UK budget deficit and still leave them with £30bn to spare.

Second, this mega-rich elite, containing many of the bankers and hedge fund and private equity operators who caused the financial crash in the first place, have not been made subject to any tax payback whatever commensurate to their gains. Some 77% of the budget deficit is being recouped by public expenditure cuts and benefit cuts, and only 23% is being repaid by tax increases. More than half of the tax increases is accounted for by the VAT rise which hits the poorest hardest. None of the tax increases is specifically aimed at the super-rich.

Third, despite the biggest slump for nearly a century, these 1,000 richest are now sitting on wealth greater even than at the height of the boom just before the crash. Their wealth now amounts to £414bn, equivalent to more than a third of Britain's entire GDP. They include 77 billionaires and 23 others, each possessing more than £750m.

The increase in wealth of this richest 1,000 has been £315bn over the last 15 years. If they were charged capital gains tax on this at the current 28% rate, it would yield £88bn, enough to pay off 70% of the entire deficit. It seems however that Osborne takes the notorious view of the New York heiress, Leonora Helmsley: "Only the little people pay taxes."
Michael Meacher MP
Labour, Oldham West and Royton



Michael "9/11 was an inside job" Meacher determined to leave no shred of doubt about his fuckwittery.

Leaving aside some of the bogus assumptions underpinning the desire to tax this wealth, and the fact that the muppet doesn't undertsand the difference between GDP which is a measure of value added in the economy and "wealth" which is a capital stock, there's a reason you tax income flows not wealth. That £315bn isn't sitting around in cash under the bed. It's either in bank accounts (in which case it's been lent out) or far more likely it's been invested in assets like stocks and real estate. Something like £90bn of investment assets would be suddenly dumped in the market in order to pay the tax demand. And who is going to be left to buy the fuckin stuff anyway?

Cunt.


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The scourge of our wealth divide

The annual Sunday Times Rich List yields four very important conclusions for the governance of Britain (Report, Weekend, 28 April). It shows that the richest 1,000 persons, just 0.003% of the adult population, increased their wealth over the last three years by £155bn. That is enough for themselves alone to pay off the entire current UK budget deficit and still leave them with £30bn to spare.

Second, this mega-rich elite, containing many of the bankers and hedge fund and private equity operators who caused the financial crash in the first place, have not been made subject to any tax payback whatever commensurate to their gains. Some 77% of the budget deficit is being recouped by public expenditure cuts and benefit cuts, and only 23% is being repaid by tax increases. More than half of the tax increases is accounted for by the VAT rise which hits the poorest hardest. None of the tax increases is specifically aimed at the super-rich.

Third, despite the biggest slump for nearly a century, these 1,000 richest are now sitting on wealth greater even than at the height of the boom just before the crash. Their wealth now amounts to £414bn, equivalent to more than a third of Britain's entire GDP. They include 77 billionaires and 23 others, each possessing more than £750m.

The increase in wealth of this richest 1,000 has been £315bn over the last 15 years. If they were charged capital gains tax on this at the current 28% rate, it would yield £88bn, enough to pay off 70% of the entire deficit. It seems however that Osborne takes the notorious view of the New York heiress, Leonora Helmsley: "Only the little people pay taxes."
Michael Meacher MP
Labour, Oldham West and Royton



Michael "9/11 was an inside job" Meacher determined to leave no shred of doubt about his fuckwittery.

Leaving aside some of the bogus assumptions underpinning the desire to tax this wealth, and the fact that the muppet doesn't undertsand the difference between GDP which is a measure of value added in the economy and "wealth" which is a capital stock, there's a reason you tax income flows not wealth. That £315bn isn't sitting around in cash under the bed. It's either in bank accounts (in which case it's been lent out) or far more likely it's been invested in assets like stocks and real estate. Something like £90bn of investment assets would be suddenly dumped in the market in order to pay the tax demand. And who is going to be left to buy the fuckin stuff anyway?

Cunt.

Seems a great idea to me if we are all in this together that is, tbf a bit a pain for a few thousand is worth it.


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c69 wrote:
zzzz wrote:
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The scourge of our wealth divide

The annual Sunday Times Rich List yields four very important conclusions for the governance of Britain (Report, Weekend, 28 April). It shows that the richest 1,000 persons, just 0.003% of the adult population, increased their wealth over the last three years by £155bn. That is enough for themselves alone to pay off the entire current UK budget deficit and still leave them with £30bn to spare.

Second, this mega-rich elite, containing many of the bankers and hedge fund and private equity operators who caused the financial crash in the first place, have not been made subject to any tax payback whatever commensurate to their gains. Some 77% of the budget deficit is being recouped by public expenditure cuts and benefit cuts, and only 23% is being repaid by tax increases. More than half of the tax increases is accounted for by the VAT rise which hits the poorest hardest. None of the tax increases is specifically aimed at the super-rich.

Third, despite the biggest slump for nearly a century, these 1,000 richest are now sitting on wealth greater even than at the height of the boom just before the crash. Their wealth now amounts to £414bn, equivalent to more than a third of Britain's entire GDP. They include 77 billionaires and 23 others, each possessing more than £750m.

The increase in wealth of this richest 1,000 has been £315bn over the last 15 years. If they were charged capital gains tax on this at the current 28% rate, it would yield £88bn, enough to pay off 70% of the entire deficit. It seems however that Osborne takes the notorious view of the New York heiress, Leonora Helmsley: "Only the little people pay taxes."
Michael Meacher MP
Labour, Oldham West and Royton



Michael "9/11 was an inside job" Meacher determined to leave no shred of doubt about his fuckwittery.

Leaving aside some of the bogus assumptions underpinning the desire to tax this wealth, and the fact that the muppet doesn't undertsand the difference between GDP which is a measure of value added in the economy and "wealth" which is a capital stock, there's a reason you tax income flows not wealth. That £315bn isn't sitting around in cash under the bed. It's either in bank accounts (in which case it's been lent out) or far more likely it's been invested in assets like stocks and real estate. Something like £90bn of investment assets would be suddenly dumped in the market in order to pay the tax demand. And who is going to be left to buy the fuckin stuff anyway?

Cunt.

Seems a great idea to me if we are all in this together that is, tbf a bit a pain for a few thousand is worth it.


Amazing the correlation between being a lefty and being economically illiterate. It's almost as if...


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FFS sick hearing that fucking line. :x

Exec pay has been increasing like that for years and shareholders approved it then. Of course their pay is ridiculous but you could argue their job is a hell of a lot harder now than it was during the boom years when share holders were happy to sign off on silly sums.


Companies (and countries) that have more equitable payscales are generally more successful.

This "their job is a hell of a lot harder" stuff is bollocks.


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The scourge of our wealth divide

The annual Sunday Times Rich List yields four very important conclusions for the governance of Britain (Report, Weekend, 28 April). It shows that the richest 1,000 persons, just 0.003% of the adult population, increased their wealth over the last three years by £155bn. That is enough for themselves alone to pay off the entire current UK budget deficit and still leave them with £30bn to spare.

Second, this mega-rich elite, containing many of the bankers and hedge fund and private equity operators who caused the financial crash in the first place, have not been made subject to any tax payback whatever commensurate to their gains. Some 77% of the budget deficit is being recouped by public expenditure cuts and benefit cuts, and only 23% is being repaid by tax increases. More than half of the tax increases is accounted for by the VAT rise which hits the poorest hardest. None of the tax increases is specifically aimed at the super-rich.

Third, despite the biggest slump for nearly a century, these 1,000 richest are now sitting on wealth greater even than at the height of the boom just before the crash. Their wealth now amounts to £414bn, equivalent to more than a third of Britain's entire GDP. They include 77 billionaires and 23 others, each possessing more than £750m.

The increase in wealth of this richest 1,000 has been £315bn over the last 15 years. If they were charged capital gains tax on this at the current 28% rate, it would yield £88bn, enough to pay off 70% of the entire deficit. It seems however that Osborne takes the notorious view of the New York heiress, Leonora Helmsley: "Only the little people pay taxes."
Michael Meacher MP
Labour, Oldham West and Royton



Michael "9/11 was an inside job" Meacher determined to leave no shred of doubt about his fuckwittery.

Leaving aside some of the bogus assumptions underpinning the desire to tax this wealth, and the fact that the muppet doesn't undertsand the difference between GDP which is a measure of value added in the economy and "wealth" which is a capital stock, there's a reason you tax income flows not wealth. That £315bn isn't sitting around in cash under the bed. It's either in bank accounts (in which case it's been lent out) or far more likely it's been invested in assets like stocks and real estate. Something like £90bn of investment assets would be suddenly dumped in the market in order to pay the tax demand. And who is going to be left to buy the fuckin stuff anyway?

Cunt.

Seems a great idea to me if we are all in this together that is, tbf a bit a pain for a few thousand is worth it.


Amazing the correlation between being a lefty and being economically illiterate. It's almost as if...

Gosh Z replying with childish insults, well I never


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w0rdtothe3rd wrote:
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FFS sick hearing that fucking line. :x

Exec pay has been increasing like that for years and shareholders approved it then. Of course their pay is ridiculous but you could argue their job is a hell of a lot harder now than it was during the boom years when share holders were happy to sign off on silly sums.


Companies (and countries) that have more equitable payscales are generally more successful.

This "their job is a hell of a lot harder" stuff is bollocks.


Of course it's harder during a recession, but that wasn't really my point. It was about shareholders approving massive increases when the going was good when it was easier to run a successful business.

And I'm not sure I buy your first line either. Plenty of successful companies have a majority of staff on minimum wage levels yet execs earn a small fortune, big retailers being one example. Personally pisses me off that we effectively subsidise businesses in this country through tax credits because they pay their staff not enough to live on.


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The scourge of our wealth divide

The annual Sunday Times Rich List yields four very important conclusions for the governance of Britain (Report, Weekend, 28 April). It shows that the richest 1,000 persons, just 0.003% of the adult population, increased their wealth over the last three years by £155bn. That is enough for themselves alone to pay off the entire current UK budget deficit and still leave them with £30bn to spare.

Second, this mega-rich elite, containing many of the bankers and hedge fund and private equity operators who caused the financial crash in the first place, have not been made subject to any tax payback whatever commensurate to their gains. Some 77% of the budget deficit is being recouped by public expenditure cuts and benefit cuts, and only 23% is being repaid by tax increases. More than half of the tax increases is accounted for by the VAT rise which hits the poorest hardest. None of the tax increases is specifically aimed at the super-rich.

Third, despite the biggest slump for nearly a century, these 1,000 richest are now sitting on wealth greater even than at the height of the boom just before the crash. Their wealth now amounts to £414bn, equivalent to more than a third of Britain's entire GDP. They include 77 billionaires and 23 others, each possessing more than £750m.

The increase in wealth of this richest 1,000 has been £315bn over the last 15 years. If they were charged capital gains tax on this at the current 28% rate, it would yield £88bn, enough to pay off 70% of the entire deficit. It seems however that Osborne takes the notorious view of the New York heiress, Leonora Helmsley: "Only the little people pay taxes."
Michael Meacher MP
Labour, Oldham West and Royton



Michael "9/11 was an inside job" Meacher determined to leave no shred of doubt about his fuckwittery.

Leaving aside some of the bogus assumptions underpinning the desire to tax this wealth, and the fact that the muppet doesn't undertsand the difference between GDP which is a measure of value added in the economy and "wealth" which is a capital stock, there's a reason you tax income flows not wealth. That £315bn isn't sitting around in cash under the bed. It's either in bank accounts (in which case it's been lent out) or far more likely it's been invested in assets like stocks and real estate. Something like £90bn of investment assets would be suddenly dumped in the market in order to pay the tax demand. And who is going to be left to buy the fuckin stuff anyway?

Cunt.

Seems a great idea to me if we are all in this together that is, tbf a bit a pain for a few thousand is worth it.


Amazing the correlation between being a lefty and being economically illiterate. It's almost as if...


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Sorry dude, but I dont know how else to break it to you. You just haven't got a fuckin clue about stuff like this. It's like a potty training infant proudly holding up a handful of shit for approval.


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It's also fuckin stupid because it misses the point that their comp packakges are mainly because they are hitting performance targets and the value of their stock awards ( a big chunk of their comp) are increasing as the markets improve from the previous few years of carnage. This is a feature not a bug.


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It's also fuckin stupid because it misses the point that their comp packakges are mainly because they are hitting performance targets and the value of their stock awards ( a big chunk of their comp) are increasing as the markets improve from the previous few years of carnage. This is a feature not a bug.


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Of course it's down from 2000 when we were about a 1-2 years really into the boom time and before the big dip/market panic when practically everything was overvalued.


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It's also fuckin stupid because it misses the point that their comp packakges are mainly because they are hitting performance targets and the value of their stock awards ( a big chunk of their comp) are increasing as the markets improve from the previous few years of carnage. This is a feature not a bug.


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It's also fuckin stupid because it misses the point that their comp packakges are mainly because they are hitting performance targets and the value of their stock awards ( a big chunk of their comp) are increasing as the markets improve from the previous few years of carnage. This is a feature not a bug.


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Of course it's down from 2000 when we were about a 1-2 years really into the boom time and before the big dip/market panic when practically everything was overvalued.


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I'm assuming then from zzzzzzzzzzzzz's argument that there were pay cuts and stocks handed back for the downs?




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Torquemada 1420 wrote:
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Torquemada 1420 wrote:
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It's also fuckin stupid because it misses the point that their comp packakges are mainly because they are hitting performance targets and the value of their stock awards ( a big chunk of their comp) are increasing as the markets improve from the previous few years of carnage. This is a feature not a bug.


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Of course it's down from 2000 when we were about a 1-2 years really into the boom time and before the big dip/market panic when practically everything was overvalued.


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I'm assuming then from zzzzzzzzzzzzz's argument that there were pay cuts and stocks handed back for the downs?




He said performance targets, that's not share price, that's things like income/profit/market share, so they could very well have met these targets despite a lower share price as the whole market went down, not just one of two big businesses.


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Does zzzzzzz ever post about rugby? He's like Dozy with a tie.


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I'm assuming then from zzzzzzzzzzzzz's argument that there were pay cuts and stocks handed back for the downs?




1. That's a non-sequiter to my point: the increased importance of equity comp means that management comp will always increase ahead of salaries as markets come out of a recession.

2. Though not my point, it does hold true that, for the same reason, senior management tend to do worse in a recession. Equity that has vested becomes worth less and equity that vests against performance targets, is less likely to vest.

This is how it should be.


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Thanks seft, for proving that a labour mp does not really understand what the deficit actually is. The stupidity of the use of "entire" shows why they should never be allowed near the economy again. Any way thank sefton


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He said performance targets, that's not share price, that's things like income/profit/market share, so they could very well have met these targets despite a lower share price as the whole market went down, not just one of two big businesses.


You got any fluffy kittens you should be attending to?




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Torquemada 1420 wrote:
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He said performance targets, that's not share price, that's things like income/profit/market share, so they could very well have met these targets despite a lower share price as the whole market went down, not just one of two big businesses.


You got any fluffy kittens you should be attending to?




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Well done, you've slam dunked that argument now. :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:25 pm 
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So we're not all in this together, now there's a surprise

The rich have been crying like babies about the top earners 50p tax rate and how it is holding back the economy, if anyone still believes this shit they are fucking loons.

So not only are the rich earning more than ever, they are also paying less tax, all thanks to their chums in Downing street.


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Clanger wrote:
So we're not all in this together, now there's a surprise

The rich have been crying like babies about the top earners 50p tax rate and how it is holding back the economy, if anyone still believes this shit they are fucking loons.

So not only are the rich earning more than ever, they are also paying less tax, all thanks to their chums in Downing street.



Do you accept how economically illiterate meacher is, are u supporting his argument?


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:32 pm 
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bimboman wrote:
Clanger wrote:
So we're not all in this together, now there's a surprise

The rich have been crying like babies about the top earners 50p tax rate and how it is holding back the economy, if anyone still believes this shit they are fucking loons.

So not only are the rich earning more than ever, they are also paying less tax, all thanks to their chums in Downing street.



Do you accept how economically illiterate meacher is, are u supporting his argument?


Eh?


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:32 pm 
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I'm going to keep posting this:

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Between 1947 and 1979, productivity in the US rose by 119%, while the income of the bottom fifth of the population rose by 122%. But between 1979 and 2009, productivity rose by 80% , while the income of the bottom fifth fell by 4%. In roughly the same period, the income of the top 1% rose by 270%.*


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So share price goes up, executives get pay rise, share price goes down, executives get pay rise.


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:39 pm 
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Sefton wrote:
So share price goes up, executives get pay rise, share price goes down, executives get pay rise.



Labour mp's post silver like economic statements and lefties repost. Stupid is as stupid does!


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:42 pm 
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bimboman wrote:
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So share price goes up, executives get pay rise, share price goes down, executives get pay rise.



Labour mp's post silver like economic statements and lefties repost. Stupid is as stupid does!


Sorry but I'm just repeating the data from Manifest as contained with the short excerpt that I posted, nothing to do with any Labour MP.


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:44 pm 
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Clanger wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Clanger wrote:
So we're not all in this together, now there's a surprise

The rich have been crying like babies about the top earners 50p tax rate and how it is holding back the economy, if anyone still believes this shit they are fucking loons.

So not only are the rich earning more than ever, they are also paying less tax, all thanks to their chums in Downing street.



Do you accept how economically illiterate meacher is, are u supporting his argument?


Eh?


Well I assumed you posted in relation to the opening post. Sorry it was just random by you, my bad.


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