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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:50 pm 
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I can't see Ulster winning this and Leinster don't have enough up front or behind to beat Ulster. Tough one to pick.


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I can't see Ulster winning this and Leinster don't have enough up front or behind to beat Ulster. Tough one to pick.


They should probably cancel it altogether


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JAT wrote:
I can't see Ulster winning this and Leinster don't have enough up front or behind to beat Ulster. Tough one to pick.


This is the official thread - viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11092


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EverReady wrote:
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I can't see Ulster winning this and Leinster don't have enough up front or behind to beat Ulster. Tough one to pick.


They should probably cancel it altogether


It's a possible option. Can't say I'd be in favour of it but with this type of games and these teams...


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JAT wrote:
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I can't see Ulster winning this and Leinster don't have enough up front or behind to beat Ulster. Tough one to pick.


They should probably cancel it altogether


It's a possible option. Can't say I'd be in favour of it but with this type of games and these teams...


Too true- I'm not watching it and I implore everybody else to boycott it as well


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Mitty wrote:
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I can't see Ulster winning this and Leinster don't have enough up front or behind to beat Ulster. Tough one to pick.


This is the official thread - viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11092

Fuck off Mitty, I started this one 1st. :frown:

Would you jump a cue? :x

IMO. Last weekend Leinsters 1st XV pack (apart from Heaslip) played vs an Ulster pack that had Tuohy, Afoa, Best and Ferris missing. Then Henry got injured before 20mins.

So Leinster only played againest 3 1st choice Ulster forwards for 65mins and only 2 1st choice forwards for 40mins.

We'll do fine. IMO Sexton and Kearney have been amazing for Leinster this season. When you look back now, those 2 have come up with the criticle scores at key times.

If Henry can get to Sexton, Ferris is fully fit and our set peice works well then I see no reason as to why we can't pull off an upset. We're obviously underdogs, but only a fool would think we've less than say, a 10% chance.

Ulster by 5.

Court vs Ross - Leinster
Best vs Straus - Ulster
Afoa vs Healy - Ulster
Muller vs Cullen - Ulster
Tuohy vs Thorn - Leinster
Ferris vs McLaughlin - Ulster
Henry vs SOB - Leinster
Wannenburg vs Heaslip - Leinster
Pienaar vs Reddan - Ulster
Jackson vs Sexton - Ulster
Gilroy vs Nacewa- Leinster
Wallace vs D'arcy - Even
Cave vs BOD - Leinster
Trimble vs Fitzgerald - Ulster
Terblanche vs Kearney - Leinster

Ulster - 7
Leinster - 7

Even - 1

:blush: :o

EDIT: Any disagreement must be backed by a reasonable point, not just petty arguements.


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EverReady wrote:
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I can't see Ulster winning this and Leinster don't have enough up front or behind to beat Ulster. Tough one to pick.


They should probably cancel it altogether


It's a possible option. Can't say I'd be in favour of it but with this type of games and these teams...


Too true- I'm not watching it and I implore everybody else to boycott it as well


Well I wouldn't go that far, buy the tickets and support the sport. But well i guess my advice would be 'be prepared'


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JAT wrote:
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JAT wrote:
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I can't see Ulster winning this and Leinster don't have enough up front or behind to beat Ulster. Tough one to pick.


They should probably cancel it altogether


It's a possible option. Can't say I'd be in favour of it but with this type of games and these teams...


Too true- I'm not watching it and I implore everybody else to boycott it as well


Well I wouldn't go that far, buy the tickets and support the sport. But well i guess my advice would be 'be prepared'


I'm bringing tissues and lemsip's


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Ulster, ala LOLster, in the European Cup final.

It just doesnt sound right.

After a decade of humiliating failure in Europe, this year they lost 2 games in the pool stages, needed other results to scrape through as a 'lucky loser', managed to stumble through a QF despite having a mere 26% possession and avoiding a blatant red card, and then playing the weakest semi finalist in European history and only beating them by 3 points.

Worst finalists EVER


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Guys seriously, the official match thread is here - viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11092

DD you should know better.


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EverReady wrote:
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Well I wouldn't go that far, buy the tickets and support the sport. But well i guess my advice would be 'be prepared'


I'm bringing tissues and lemsip's


Keeping it real my friend.


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looks good - two good teams - well done for victories over the weekend. Shame the final is at Twickenham (for a fans / costs point of view) - enjoy the day out.
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If you ignore Willie playing silly buggers with his Jackson/Sexton pick, I'm inclined to agree with his head to head. I think the sides are quite evenly-matched but the bull-headed stubbornness* that Leinster have developed over the last couple of years will see them home, imo.

*I'd almost describe it as Munster-esque.


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Love seeing Heineken cup final and Ulster in the same sentence. Massive underdogs we may be but derbys make it ore interesting. There are great battles all over the park. Leinster somehow seem to change their scrum totally in the 2nd half if under pressure in the first. Seeing two first choice teams is what we hope for.

It will show ulster where we are in a way that all the pro12 games between the sides can't.


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Willie Faloon wrote:
Jackson vs Sexton - Ulster


You cannot be serious.


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Even though it increases Ulster's chances I hope Ferris is fit for this, looked like his knee at him today, I really hope he is OK.

I think we have to be favourites but I would give Ulster a decent chance of winning, say 30%.

I'd start VDM and Jenno. Reddan at 9.

Fitz would want to play out of his skin next week to hold his place for the final, I thought he was poor enough yesterday.


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Is Kearney in the running for european player of the year? I know both he and ferris are fighting it out for the IRUPA player of the year but wasn't sure about Europe.


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Reddan at 9.

To the delight of Ulster supporters, I imagine. Boss is far superior, imo.


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JAT wrote:
I can't see Ulster winning this and Leinster don't have enough up front or behind to beat Ulster. Tough one to pick.


That makes no sense whatsoever.


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DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:
Is Kearney in the running for european player of the year? I know both he and ferris are fighting it out for the IRUPA player of the year but wasn't sure about Europe.

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Longlist of contenders for the ERC European Player of Year 2012 based on Pool stage performances:
Mouritz Botha -Lock - Saracens
Mike Brown - Full Back - Harlequins
Antoine Claassen - Back Row - Brive
Thierry Dusautoir - Back Row - Toulouse
Owen Farrell - Centre - Saracens
Stephen Ferris - Back Row - Ulster Rugby
Wesley Fofana - Centre - ASM Clermont Auvergne
Gethin Jenkins - Prop - Cardiff Blues
Jonny Sexton - Out half - Leinster Rugby
Greig Laidlaw - Scrum half/Out half - Edinburgh Rugby
Timoci Matanavou - Wing - Toulouse
Ignacio Mieres -Out half - Exeter Chiefs
Ben Morgan - No 8 -Scarlets
Ronan O'Gara -Out half - Munster Rugby
Netani Talei - No 8 - Edinburgh Rugby
A shortlist of 5 players will be announced following the Heineken Cup and Amlin Challenge Cup semi-finals (27/28/29 April) and the ERC European Player of the Year winner for 2012 will be selected after the London Finals Weekend of 18/19 May.


Kearney is not there, which is a shame. Has to be between Ferris and Sexton and ROG


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Reddan at 9.

To the delight of Ulster supporters, I imagine. Boss is far superior, imo.


Yes and no. Reddan will fuck up a few things but I think we should play this game in home mode at a very high tempo.


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Do you think an Ulster win would help unite some of the sectarian differences in Belfast, or do you think these are too ingrained? I was shocked to read that 'peace walls' were still being erected as late as the early 2000s, to separate religiously diverse areas and prevent bloodshed. I always that all that nonsense was over, and the walls were disused relics, throwbacks to the 60s and 70s.


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Ali's Choice wrote:
Do you think an Ulster win would help unite some of the sectarian differences in Belfast, or do you think these are too ingrained? I was shocked to read that 'peace walls' were still being erected as late as the early 2000s, to separate religiously diverse areas and prevent bloodshed. I always that all that nonsense was over, and the walls were disused relics, throwbacks to the 60s and 70s.

Hopefully, they'll someday achieve the level of social cohesiveness that Australia has developed between the Aboriginal and white communities.


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Ali's Choice wrote:
Do you think an Ulster win would help unite some of the sectarian differences in Belfast, or do you think these are too ingrained? I was shocked to read that 'peace walls' were still being erected as late as the early 2000s, to separate religiously diverse areas and prevent bloodshed. I always that all that nonsense was over, and the walls were disused relics, throwbacks to the 60s and 70s.


Not subtle enough. Must try harder :yawn:


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DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
Do you think an Ulster win would help unite some of the sectarian differences in Belfast, or do you think these are too ingrained? I was shocked to read that 'peace walls' were still being erected as late as the early 2000s, to separate religiously diverse areas and prevent bloodshed. I always that all that nonsense was over, and the walls were disused relics, throwbacks to the 60s and 70s.


Not subtle enough. Must try harder :yawn:


No need to be defensive mate. I'm sure we all have aspects of our country's recent history which we find both embarrassing and shameful.


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Last 10 results between the sides: 9 - 1 to Leinster.

20.04.12 Ulster 8 Leinster 16
26.12.11 Leinster 42 Ulster 13
13.05.11 Leinster 18 Ulster 3
16.04.11 Leinster 34 Ulster 26
27.12.10 Ulster 13 Leinster 30
26.12.09 Leinster 15 Ulster 3
24.10.09 Ulster 16 Leinster 14
29.03.09 Leinster 32 Ulster 6
27.12.08 Ulster 13 Leinster 21
26.12.07 Leinster 29 Ulster 0


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Ali's Choice wrote:
DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
Do you think an Ulster win would help unite some of the sectarian differences in Belfast, or do you think these are too ingrained? I was shocked to read that 'peace walls' were still being erected as late as the early 2000s, to separate religiously diverse areas and prevent bloodshed. I always that all that nonsense was over, and the walls were disused relics, throwbacks to the 60s and 70s.


Not subtle enough. Must try harder :yawn:


No need to be defensive mate. I'm sure we all have aspects of our country's recent history which we find both embarrassing and shameful.


Like all the racism in Auckland rugby for example?


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Last 10 results between the sides: 9 - 1 to Leinster.

20.04.12 Ulster 8 Leinster 16
26.12.11 Leinster 42 Ulster 13
13.05.11 Leinster 18 Ulster 3
16.04.11 Leinster 34 Ulster 26
27.12.10 Ulster 13 Leinster 30
26.12.09 Leinster 15 Ulster 3
24.10.09 Ulster 16 Leinster 14
29.03.09 Leinster 32 Ulster 6
27.12.08 Ulster 13 Leinster 21
26.12.07 Leinster 29 Ulster 0


Nobody beats Ulster 7 times in a row. Nobody!


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I can't see Ulster winning this and Leinster don't have enough up front or behind to beat Ulster. Tough one to pick.


This is the official thread - viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11092

Fuck off Mitty, I started this one 1st. :frown:

Would you jump a cue? :x

IMO. Last weekend Leinsters 1st XV pack (apart from Heaslip) played vs an Ulster pack that had Tuohy, Afoa, Best and Ferris missing. Then Henry got injured before 20mins.

So Leinster only played againest 3 1st choice Ulster forwards for 65mins and only 2 1st choice forwards for 40mins.

We'll do fine. IMO Sexton and Kearney have been amazing for Leinster this season. When you look back now, those 2 have come up with the criticle scores at key times.

If Henry can get to Sexton, Ferris is fully fit and our set peice works well then I see no reason as to why we can't pull off an upset. We're obviously underdogs, but only a fool would think we've less than say, a 10% chance.

Ulster by 5.

Court vs Ross - One showed in the 6Ns he cannot scrummage, the other showed why he is invaluable to Leinster and Ireland-Leinster
Best vs Straus - A battle of the yips-Even
Afoa vs Healy - An average scrummager against a dynamic ball player-Leinster
Muller vs Cullen - A mercenary who abandoned his country against a man who sacrificed his international career to play in this match-Leinster
Tuohy vs Thorn - Boy against man-Leinster
Ferris vs SOB - One is made of glass the other of tungsten-Leinster
Henry vs Jennings-One is not trusted by international management the other is a hardened international-Leinster
Wannenburg vs Heaslip -A man with a dodgy past against a legend-Leinster
Pienaar vs Reddan - One is regarded as flaky in his homeland the other is related to me-Leinster
Jackson vs Sexton - One choked at U20 level the other won a HEC single handed-Leinster
Gilroy vs Nacewa- A player who shamed Munster against the greatest import in Irish rugby-Leinster
Wallace vs D'arcy - A man who can't make the Irish team against an Irish stalwart-Leinster
Cave vs BOD - A player with decent potential against the greatest ever Irish player-Leinster
Trimble vs Fitzgerald - One wouldn't turn in the carpark in Twickenham the other is a player of genuine class-Leinster
Terblanche vs Kearney - An emergency stop gap against the best full back in Europe-Leinster

Ulster -0
Leinster - 14

Even - 1

:blush: :o

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Ali's Choice wrote:
Do you think an Ulster win would help unite some of the sectarian differences in Belfast, or do you think these are too ingrained? I was shocked to read that 'peace walls' were still being erected as late as the early 2000s, to separate religiously diverse areas and prevent bloodshed. I always that all that nonsense was over, and the walls were disused relics, throwbacks to the 60s and 70s.




In fairness not surprising peace walls aren't used to combat violence in New Zealand.

It's Hard to build a peacewall In a kitchen


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waguser wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
Do you think an Ulster win would help unite some of the sectarian differences in Belfast, or do you think these are too ingrained? I was shocked to read that 'peace walls' were still being erected as late as the early 2000s, to separate religiously diverse areas and prevent bloodshed. I always that all that nonsense was over, and the walls were disused relics, throwbacks to the 60s and 70s.




In fairness not surprising peace walls aren't used to combat violence in New Zealand.

It's Hard to build a peacewall In a kitchen


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Ali's Choice wrote:
Do you think an Ulster win would help unite some of the sectarian differences in Belfast, or do you think these are too ingrained? I was shocked to read that 'peace walls' were still being erected as late as the early 2000s, to separate religiously diverse areas and prevent bloodshed. I always that all that nonsense was over, and the walls were disused relics, throwbacks to the 60s and 70s.




In fairness not surprising peace walls aren't used to combat violence in New Zealand.

It's Hard to build a peacewall In a kitchen


Sad that you;

a) defend the use of walls to separate citizens of the same city

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b) seem to think such forms of enforcing law and order are not only acceptable, but desirable.

It is such a backward, outdated form of social engineering. And speaks volumes about the communities these walls were built to protect. I'm struggling to think of any other modern, western city which boasts 10 metre high walls that run for kilometres built for the sole purpose of keeping people from different religious backgrounds apart.


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Ali's Choice wrote:
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Ali's Choice wrote:
Do you think an Ulster win would help unite some of the sectarian differences in Belfast, or do you think these are too ingrained? I was shocked to read that 'peace walls' were still being erected as late as the early 2000s, to separate religiously diverse areas and prevent bloodshed. I always that all that nonsense was over, and the walls were disused relics, throwbacks to the 60s and 70s.




In fairness not surprising peace walls aren't used to combat violence in New Zealand.

It's Hard to build a peacewall In a kitchen


Sad that you;
blah blah bla blah blah blah trolling on a NH club competitton blah blah blah because I'm a sad sack of shit.


fixed


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danthefan wrote:
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You cannot be serious.

Yes, that is a mistake.

:(


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Willie Falloon wrote:
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You cannot be serious.

Yes, that is a mistake.

:(


fair play willie

Signs of sight developing in that second eye :nod:


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camroc1 wrote:
Last 10 results between the sides: 9 - 1 to Leinster.

20.04.12 Ulster 8 Leinster 16
26.12.11 Leinster 42 Ulster 13
13.05.11 Leinster 18 Ulster 3
16.04.11 Leinster 34 Ulster 26
27.12.10 Ulster 13 Leinster 30
26.12.09 Leinster 15 Ulster 3
24.10.09 Ulster 16 Leinster 14
29.03.09 Leinster 32 Ulster 6
27.12.08 Ulster 13 Leinster 21
26.12.07 Leinster 29 Ulster 0


Only this seasons resulst show something.

In December we send down, literally our 3rd XV. For about 20mins we had 3 18 year olds out there and another couple below 20.

Last week, 4 1st choice forwards missed the whole match. Henry only played a short while (basically 5 1st XV forwards not playing ) and Wannenburg went off around Halftime.

Ruan won't be missing 4 out of 5 kicks either. :nod:


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