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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:24 pm 
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Remember rugby was banned there for 20(?) years due to hazing. I'm sure with the Catholic connection which is strong in midwestern HS programs, they'll improve year after year.


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Yes, but is that actually happening? They now have a former USA age grade coach and they don't really look to be improving.


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Somebody tell Clever Movember is over...

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Game is being played at Providence HS.

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If they wanted to have Notre Dame as a draw, fine, why did they get their match with Life though? If you want to showcase rugby as a centerpiece why pick a game where both teams are on the road and one team looks like it'll win easily by more than 70 points?

Appears the crowd expectation is due to a youth tournament going on at the same time there and the college game is the showcase. Good idea, hope it's successful for them. Just I imagine the North Carolina ACC club rugby programs, AHO (Appalachian State), ECU, UNC-Charlotte, Clemson, etc. would've provided a more competitive matchup for two teams that are more local. It's not like many of the kids or parents attending could tell you the difference between Division I-A and I-AA rugby.

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NC YOUTH RUGBY FEST

February 16, 2012

By Matthew Henry of North Carolina Youth Rugby Union (NCYRU)

The North Carolina Youth Rugby Union (NCYRU) is set to kick off the 2012 annual RUGBY festival and tournament March 10th and 11th at Elon Park in Charlotte, NC.

There will be over 42 teams comprising a cross section of high school men and women teams as well as a contingent of middle school boys. Over 1000 players will converge in the Ballantyne area of south Charlotte to contend for the related championships of each age bracket. The North Carolina Spring Ruggerfest is one of the largest youth league rugby tournaments in the United States. Teams attend from a dozen east coast states as well as teams from Canada and The Caribbean.

All spectators are welcome, but good sportsmanship and thunderous cheering for the participants is required!

New to the 2012 Ruggerfest will be our College Showcase game between The University of Notre Dame and rugby powerhouse Life University out of Marietta, Georgia. This will be a regular season game played at Providence High School March 10, 2012 at 7pm. This game will help determine season rankings and post season tournament brackets.

There will be rugby related giveaways and raffles at the game. Including signed USA Eagle sportswear.

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contact us at: ncyouthrugby@gmail.com


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England has Swing Low, Sweet Chariot
Ireland has Fields of Athenry

What should American rugby's song be?

American Girl?
American Pie?

Absolutely not Born in the USA.


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goeagles wrote:
England has Swing Low, Sweet Chariot
Ireland has Fields of Athenry

What should American rugby's song be?

American Girl?
American Pie?

Absolutely not Born in the USA.


America Fuck Yeah!


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I know we're not supposed to think much of rugby league's attempts to ride the coattails of real rugby, but I must share this disturbing new development.
RL operatives in Philadelphia have co-opted the Eastern Pennsylvania Rugby Union (Local LAU) into scheduling two union matches (club and highschool) as a curtain-raiser for league's "international" match against Ireland. They even had the EPRU senior official to write an op-ed on the wearerugby website about how league and union should co-exist happily together.

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Schedule

10:00am - Match One; Hibernians RUFC v Northeast Irish RUFC
11:15am – Match Two; Bonner HS v St. Augustine Prep
12:45pm - Pre Donnybrook entertainment/Announcements
1:00pm – Kickoff – Irish Wolfhounds vs American Tomahawks
Halftime - A skills/drills challenge that could include local HS players
2:40pm - Post game awards
3:00pm - End

http://www.epru.org/news/donnybrook-cup-2012

I must admit I am somewhat torn now. I would like to see a highschool rugby game in a stadium, but I do not want to support RL.
I might come watch the highschool game and leave right before "Tomahawks" kick off. :evil:


Funny enough, the page on the EPRU website advertising rugby league has been taken down. Perhaps Nigel Melville gave them a call to remind them which sport they are supposed to promote. :lol:


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I have no inherent problem with league but the way they are going about promoting themselves is really odious.

In other news, this is from Nigel Melville's twitter this morning

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:27 pm 
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goeagles wrote:
England has Swing Low, Sweet Chariot
Ireland has Fields of Athenry

What should American rugby's song be?

American Girl?
American Pie?

Absolutely not Born in the USA.


I like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNx-guWyVgM


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Dillon Baxter got kicked off of San Diego St's football team today for a combination of grades issues and some off the field incident. This is after he already transferred from USC. IMO USA Rugby should see if he has any interest in a 7s contract. He would be worth the risk IMO. For those unfamiliar, go to the 50 second mark of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUUq1gD_t7w

That's a 7s monster right there.


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New "rules for decorum" proposal for this thread to people that post on it: no posts on rugby league. If you want to bitch about David Niu or WeAreRugby, go start up an American Rugby League thread and do it there. Rugby league in the U.S. is an insignificance, does not matter when it comes to rugby union here, and people that post about it as in "look at these idiots" unless it has some relevance to union are just showcasing they have an inferiority complex about it and their posts do nothing more than legitimize the league folks they're decrying more by giving them more page hits and views.

(If you want to see why I'm annoyed, go here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3861 )

so an update:

rule #1: post pics of girls you talk about if they're pretty
rule #2: no mentioning rugby league in the American rugby thread :lol:


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In favor.


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Rumors flying that BYU will drop out of CP as Cal did and play Cal this year at Rio Cinto and split the money and share none with USA Rugby. Also according to Gainline comments section other top tier teams are leaving as well. This makes the Cal stuff makes sense. Say hello to conferences with no colleges paying dues to USA Rugby. Maybe this will force new leadership.


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Rumors flying that BYU will drop out of CP as Cal did and play Cal this year at Rio Cinto and split the money and share none with USA Rugby. Also according to Gainline comments section other top tier teams are leaving as well. This makes the Cal stuff makes sense. Say hello to conferences with no colleges paying dues to USA Rugby. Maybe this will force new leadership.
that will be good for the game and i hope it finally wakes up usa rugby.


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I feel for Melville now. There is a lot happening and pretty fast that he has to get a handle on. The College situation, the Super league and now 7s. he does get paid big money so, time to earn his paycheck.


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Old Man by the Sea wrote:
Rumors flying that BYU will drop out of CP as Cal did and play Cal this year at Rio Cinto and split the money and share none with USA Rugby. Also according to Gainline comments section other top tier teams are leaving as well. This makes the Cal stuff makes sense. Say hello to conferences with no colleges paying dues to USA Rugby. Maybe this will force new leadership.
that will be good for the game and i hope it finally wakes up usa rugby.


Long-term, in the short-term the national team is f*cked and throws into doubt a lot of what Melville just agreed to with the other Tier 2 unions in Las Vegas whatever it is.


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7s coach should not be a tough decision. I may be wrong but the press release makes it sound like Caravelli was pressured to resign. Magleby is the obvious choice to be his successor. If he's not ready to take over until after Dartmouth's season you make one of the current support staff like Williams the interim.

College stuff - I would think college teams would still pay dues. There are HS teams who don't compete for a national championship who still pay dues to USAR. Plus the only teams forming conferences are really BCS conference teams. Teams like St Marys, Arky St, Davenport and Life I imagine will still want to play under the USAR umbrella.


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7s coach should not be a tough decision. I may be wrong but the press release makes it sound like Caravelli was pressured to resign. Magleby is the obvious choice to be his successor. If he's not ready to take over until after Dartmouth's season you make one of the current support staff like Williams the interim.

College stuff - I would think college teams would still pay dues. There are HS teams who don't compete for a national championship who still pay dues to USAR. Plus the only teams forming conferences are really BCS conference teams. Teams like St Marys, Arky St, Davenport and Life I imagine will still want to play under the USAR umbrella.



I think there 7s list will be short. If not Mags then Serv maybe even Pye. I think for College you let the really big names go and do their own thing and take what you have and develop that. Once the none big names see something stable and growing, they will join in as they will want part of the action.


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goeagles wrote:
7s coach should not be a tough decision. I may be wrong but the press release makes it sound like Caravelli was pressured to resign. Magleby is the obvious choice to be his successor. If he's not ready to take over until after Dartmouth's season you make one of the current support staff like Williams the interim.

College stuff - I would think college teams would still pay dues. There are HS teams who don't compete for a national championship who still pay dues to USAR. Plus the only teams forming conferences are really BCS conference teams. Teams like St Marys, Arky St, Davenport and Life I imagine will still want to play under the USAR umbrella.



I think there 7s list will be short. If not Mags then Serv maybe even Pye. I think for College you let the really big names go and do their own thing and take what you have and develop that. Once the none big names see something stable and growing, they will join in as they will want part of the action.


Or they'll go their own way and be a success. The only problem with conferences is the level of competition. If a Pac 12 forms I hope it's only 6 or 7 teams in the beginning (Cal, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Arizona St and UCLA with Stanford as possibly a 7th) and let the other teams build up. Also, target those teams for inclusion in their athletic departments and push to be part of programming in the new Pac 12 Network. Also try to get these teams playing in stadiums and if possible on local TV. Cal-Utah this week is being played at the Rio Tinto and the article on Goff has a lot of Pac 12 mentions.


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1. The only problem with conferences is the level of competition. If a Pac 12 forms I hope it's only 6 or 7 teams in the beginning (Cal, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Arizona St and UCLA with Stanford as possibly a 7th) and let the other teams build up.

2. Also, target those teams for inclusion in their athletic departments

3. push to be part of programming in the new Pac 12 Network.

4. Also try to get these teams playing in stadiums

5. if possible on local TV.


I think the only realistic one is #1. You may get your conference title game or a 7s tournament on the Pac-12 Network but that's about it, I don't think you're getting weekly exposure. Are the Pac-12 Network planning on televising club ice hockey? Because if not, I can't see them televising rugby when hockey like rugby is an almost entirely club sport (and will be a long time into the future unless the sport gets massively bigger, sorry Title IX and athletics department budgets stretched ever farther) and it's a historically demonstrated larger TV draw than rugby is.

The Atlantic Coast Rugby League when it started last year, of course they were snobs on who was allowed in, but they had 9 schools of the 12 come in (Boston College was not because they're too far away, ditto Pitt and Syracuse when they come in I imagine, Florida State and Miami because they're too far away). Duke came up quite a bit to play and when you remove their game against Georgia Tech scored something like 10 points total all conference season. This year they dropped out of the league and went back down to Division II college rugby, so the membership of the league is 8. Georgia Tech should have done the same, they lost to Clemson this past weekend 100-0 as an example. Wake Forest are competitive at least in the sense of losing games in the 30 range but with rugby being a club sport and that's such a small university to begin with that it's not like they can do what they do for varsity sports and give scholarships to great rugby players to come there, so they'll always struggle just due to the numbers game unless someone turns them into a Life or Davenport.

So really out of 14 schools once the two bastard northeastern schools come in, it's 6 real schools as far as putting forth good games which is the purpose of a conference. I guess it's good for what it is, but it's a lot more sizzle than steak, they left perfectly fine rugby programs on the outside just because John Swofford, a person that doesn't give rugby anywhere a dime or care about it, didn't like their football programs. They have a website, a Wikipedia page, adidas gives them a little money, there's no media to speak of really beyond rugby-specific sites, the small rugby journalism world trumped them up as "hey, these guys are doing things right, watch out for them come playoff time", and then conference champs Maryland lost 57-16 in the first round of the Division I-AA playoffs this past spring. You can have all the promotion in the world, doesn't necessarily mean you're actually good at the game though, and that's a lot of my problem in trying to take a conference structure that is driven by football and football only and applying it to what is now and will be for a long time a club structure as opposed to a varsity structure.


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You are right with regards to the ACC but the Pac 12 is actively pressuring schools to add sports so that they can have content for their network. This is a unique opportunity for rugby at Pac 12 schools to state their case for why rugby (men's and women's) should be one of those sports. I've been over the talking points on here many times before but you are once again ignoring the influx of money to these schools combined with the need for content for the P12 Network. And I'm not the only one in favor of it. I've linked the threads on Allbuffs about it in the past couple weeks.

And to suggest hockey compared to rugby for any school in the P12 not named Colorado is laughable. The costs are far, far higher to start a varsity hockey program than to start a varsity rugby program since rugby can make use of existing soccer and football facilities whereas hockey would need basketball arenas to be completely restructured or would need to build their own arenas.


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You are right with regards to the ACC but the Pac 12 is actively pressuring schools to add sports so that they can have content for their network.


It's not like they're telling them to add Ultimate Frisbee or rugby or other associated club sports. I can show up with all the Pac-12 club handball teams on why we should be put on the network and it's an Olympic sport with marginal interest in the U.S. but it can grow but that doesn't mean anyone wants to watch handball or it would get picked up. Rugby is a club sport for a reason. And by definition, club sports are almost always inferior to varsity sports.

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This is a unique opportunity for rugby at Pac 12 schools to state their case for why rugby (men's and women's) should be one of those sports.


Great. They should. There's a long way between proposal and acceptance.

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I've been over the talking points on here many times before but you are once again ignoring the influx of money to these schools combined with the need for content for the P12 Network.


why would they pickup a sport with no history of people watching it in this country when they are a network that wants to draw ratings so they could increase subscriber fees down the road? please answer this question

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And to suggest hockey compared to rugby for any school in the P12 not named Colorado is laughable.


Well we're even, because I think men's rugby becoming a varsity sport en masse across the Pac-12 is laughable. You gamble online for a living. I'm willing to bet you on it if you honestly believe that. It's easy money for me and I'm about to buy a house and could use your money to help on the down payment. :lol:

Cal, Utah, fine, rugby at those places are kinda big (this is all relative, it doesn't mean on a pan-West Coast travel schedule they necessarily would break even). Please demonstrate for me where else that's true. Have pictures of crowds and put them up please, because I've never seen them. And do better than 300 college kids watching a game that they got into for free on an intramural field. Arizona is one of the better teams in the country and ran by one of the legendary people in rugby in this country Dave Sitton and per his own admittance he can't even get a field to play on in the fall. (And he in an interview after the last CPD season stated the Pac-12 Network would never do XVs.)

Southern Cal are or at least used to be an ACHA power of sorts (ACHA is the American Club Hockey Association, in other words what rugby is for every university in the country outside a handful of schools). It's what made me think of it. Just as most universities have rugby clubs, they have hockey clubs as well. On an organizational level, the UCLA hockey team playing in ACHA and the UCLA rugby team playing in the CPD are the exact same.


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It's not like they're telling them to add Ultimate Frisbee or rugby or other associated club sports. I can show up with all the Pac-12 club handball teams on why we should be put on the network and it's an Olympic sport with marginal interest in the U.S. but it can grow but that doesn't mean anyone wants to watch handball or it would get picked up. Rugby is a club sport for a reason. And by definition, club sports are almost always inferior to varsity sports.


Where do you think sports come from to be elevated to varsity status? Thin air? CU just added women's lacrosse. Do you think this was a club sport at CU or nothing previously?

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Great. They should. There's a long way between proposal and acceptance.


Indeed.

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why would they pickup a sport with no history of people watching it in this country when they are a network that wants to draw ratings so they could increase subscriber fees down the road? please answer this question


Because they flat out need content for their network. There isn't much history for people watching women lax, either. I'd be willing to bet the CRC 7s outdraw the women's lax finals for ratings.

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Well we're even, because I think men's rugby becoming a varsity sport en masse across the Pac-12 is laughable. You gamble online for a living. I'm willing to bet you on it if you honestly believe that. It's easy money for me and I'm about to buy a house and could use your money to help on the down payment.


Where did I say en masse? I think at some specific schools it makes sense to approach the administration.

Let me see if I have any pictures from the CU-CSU game in Glendale where they charged admission. Of course, part of the draw of being a varsity sport is being featured on the athletic site and the marketing associated with that. Much more awareness, and thus higher attendance, because of that.

By the way, here is an email response I got from one of the associate ADs at CU:

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Thank you for sharing your thoughts and insights on future CU Sports offerings. Your passion for the sport of Rugby is very evident and it is that kind of fervor that we look for when considering any additional sport. As you can imagine there are a variety of factors that must be considered when adding sports and which one. Some of the following are considerations we evaluate and these are not in any particular order:

1. Male vs. Female (gender equity related issues with Title IX) We strive for proportionality
2. Conference Alignment if not in the Pac-12 and the opportunity for a conference sponsored championship
3. Playing competition and recruiting competition for players (which universities already offer it, scheduling matches)
4. Facilities in place or needed
5. Support systems needed for Student Athlete success, such as sports medicine, academic support, strength & conditioning, compliance,
6. Recruiting base, local, state, regional
7. High School participation (are the high school programs growing, steady or in decline)
8. Collegiate participation (club sports on campus already and interest in varsity status)
9. Interest from Alumni, do we have a history or tradition
10. Interest in supporting the sport from a variety of sources, community, current donors, potential donors, alumni and associations such as the one you mentioned.
11. Budgetary impact and our sustainability for sponsoring the sport long term (scholarships, equipment, travel, recruiting, coaching, facilities, etc.)
12. Fall Sport vs. Spring Sport - Spreading the Athletic Department resources and staff over equal time periods

These factors are all considered and as we evaluate our athletic department offerings for sponsored sports we will keep all options on the table and consider the merits of a variety of sports. We don't foresee adding any sports in the near future as we will be assimilating the women's lacrosse sport for some time to come. It sounds like many of the factors we consider when adding sports match up well with Rugby. Several of these factors I was not aware of and we appreciate you bringing them to our attention. Many thanks for sharing your thoughts and passion for Rugby.

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from Rugbymag, and no, the numbers don't add up, call the remainder "slush" :lol:


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from Rugbymag, and no, the numbers don't add up, call the remainder "slush" :lol:



may be they use SNC Lavalin's accountants


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March 1, 2012

Magleby to take helm of USA Men’s Sevens team through May

BOULDER, Colo. – Alexander Magleby has been named head coach of the USA Men’s Sevens team following the resignation of Al Caravelli yesterday (Wednesday February 29). The incoming coach will lead the team through the last four stops of the 2011-2012 HSBC Sevens World Series.

An open application process for the head coach position will follow the conclusion of the Series in May.

Magleby will take the reins immediately to prepare the USA for the Hong Kong Sevens tournament that kicks off on Friday March 23.

“Alex is well-prepared to lead the Eagles and I think he’ll bring a fresh perspective on where the team stands now and where it needs to be,” said Nigel Melville, USA Rugby CEO and President of Rugby Operations.

Melville coached the Men’s Collegiate All-Americans on a New Zealand Tour in 2008 and had Magleby as his forwards coach. “Alex is very positive and clear about what he expects from his players on and off the field,” Melville said.

A seasoned leader, Magleby has been head coach of the Men’s Collegiate All-Americans – the elite university-level developmental program in the USA – since 2009. He led the All-Americans to a 2-1 record over the New Zealand Universities in a three-match series last year. Magleby also coached the first-ever Men’s Collegiate All-Americans Sevens team in 2011, a program designed to help prepare athletes for the senior men’s team and the Olympics.

A Dartmouth College alumnus, he has coached his alma mater and the Ivy League powerhouse since 2001. Dartmouth’s sevens team won the College Rugby Championship Invitational last summer, defeating Army in a thrilling final.

The incoming coach also has an impressive playing career. He was on the USA Men’s Sevens team from 2000-2005 and captained the Eagles in the 2005 Rugby World Cup Sevens. He also has four caps in fifteens.

With the perspective of a former international, the new coach’s priorities are clear and they begin with an approach to the game that transcends the ‘Xs and Os’ of a game plan.

“It starts with a responsibility to our rugby community – we will play rugby that will make our countrymen proud. Full stop. We’ll focus on our country’s doctrines of hard work, creativity, entrepreneurialism, grit, energy, and a will to succeed no matter the odds,” Magleby said.

Magleby will take over a USA team that has struggled so far this season, going 7-19, tallying a 26% winning percentage and sliding to 13th on the World Series circuit. The new coach will look to making the rest of the season count.

“We’ll train to adapt with conditions, good and bad, and continue to grow with each experience. We will be fervently committed to improving and growing as a group,” Magleby said.

As coach of the All-Americans, Magleby has worked with and played a role in selecting and developing several current Eagles including Blaine Scully, Colin Hawley, Peter Tiberio, Rocco Mauer, and Zack Test.

On the talent he has on the USA team, Magleby was clear about where the team stands.

“In some areas we’ll hit the reset button, but for the most part it’s a team with a lot of promise. The platform is there to build something quite special,” Magleby said. “I’m looking forward to being a part of it. It’s an awesome responsibility we carry forward.”

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It's not like they're telling them to add Ultimate Frisbee or rugby or other associated club sports. I can show up with all the Pac-12 club handball teams on why we should be put on the network and it's an Olympic sport with marginal interest in the U.S. but it can grow but that doesn't mean anyone wants to watch handball or it would get picked up. Rugby is a club sport for a reason. And by definition, club sports are almost always inferior to varsity sports.


Where do you think sports come from to be elevated to varsity status? Thin air? CU just added women's lacrosse. Do you think this was a club sport at CU or nothing previously?

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Great. They should. There's a long way between proposal and acceptance.


Indeed.

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why would they pickup a sport with no history of people watching it in this country when they are a network that wants to draw ratings so they could increase subscriber fees down the road? please answer this question


Because they flat out need content for their network. There isn't much history for people watching women lax, either. I'd be willing to bet the CRC 7s outdraw the women's lax finals for ratings.

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Well we're even, because I think men's rugby becoming a varsity sport en masse across the Pac-12 is laughable. You gamble online for a living. I'm willing to bet you on it if you honestly believe that. It's easy money for me and I'm about to buy a house and could use your money to help on the down payment.


Where did I say en masse? I think at some specific schools it makes sense to approach the administration.

Let me see if I have any pictures from the CU-CSU game in Glendale where they charged admission. Of course, part of the draw of being a varsity sport is being featured on the athletic site and the marketing associated with that. Much more awareness, and thus higher attendance, because of that.

By the way, here is an email response I got from one of the associate ADs at CU:

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Thank you for sharing your thoughts and insights on future CU Sports offerings. Your passion for the sport of Rugby is very evident and it is that kind of fervor that we look for when considering any additional sport. As you can imagine there are a variety of factors that must be considered when adding sports and which one. Some of the following are considerations we evaluate and these are not in any particular order:

1. Male vs. Female (gender equity related issues with Title IX) We strive for proportionality
2. Conference Alignment if not in the Pac-12 and the opportunity for a conference sponsored championship
3. Playing competition and recruiting competition for players (which universities already offer it, scheduling matches)
4. Facilities in place or needed
5. Support systems needed for Student Athlete success, such as sports medicine, academic support, strength & conditioning, compliance,
6. Recruiting base, local, state, regional
7. High School participation (are the high school programs growing, steady or in decline)
8. Collegiate participation (club sports on campus already and interest in varsity status)
9. Interest from Alumni, do we have a history or tradition
10. Interest in supporting the sport from a variety of sources, community, current donors, potential donors, alumni and associations such as the one you mentioned.
11. Budgetary impact and our sustainability for sponsoring the sport long term (scholarships, equipment, travel, recruiting, coaching, facilities, etc.)
12. Fall Sport vs. Spring Sport - Spreading the Athletic Department resources and staff over equal time periods

These factors are all considered and as we evaluate our athletic department offerings for sponsored sports we will keep all options on the table and consider the merits of a variety of sports. We don't foresee adding any sports in the near future as we will be assimilating the women's lacrosse sport for some time to come. It sounds like many of the factors we consider when adding sports match up well with Rugby. Several of these factors I was not aware of and we appreciate you bringing them to our attention. Many thanks for sharing your thoughts and passion for Rugby.

Go Buffs!



Keep at it Goey.


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from Rugbymag, and no, the numbers don't add up, call the remainder "slush" :lol:


So Melville gave himself and Eddie O. pay increase at the end of 2009 even though the revenue from sponsorships and IRB grants decreased and the union ran 115K in the red that year. Shameless.
At least I stopped paying my CIPP fees.


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Can we please take a leaf from John O'Neill's book and cut funding to the women? They're going to stay right where they're at regardless. No one threatening, no one to threaten.


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Can we please take a leaf from John O'Neill's book and cut funding to the women? They're going to stay right where they're at regardless. No one threatening, no one to threaten.



In most countries you could do that, but it won't work here. The advent of the USOC and the existence of Title 9 mean that we're tied to the womens version of the game whether we want to or not.


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Hopefully most of that is on women's 7s and not 15s. The better the women's 7s do, the more USOC funding they'll get so it might actually be a decent investment even if it's not of huge interest to most American rugby fans.


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Cal beats Utah 23-22 on a penalty at the death. Can't imagine Cal didn't field close to a full strength side given their focus on P12 rugby and last week's result. Definitely a rebuilding year for Cal and gives more credence to the D1-A champ being the true champ.


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Anybody know the attendence in Utah today ?


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Anybody know the attendence in Utah today ?


No clue but assume it wasn't great or it would have been trumpeted in the write ups.


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What does Cal-Utah mean to non-rugby people?

It was a big time fuck up not to sign on for the Wasatch Cup being there full time.


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What does Cal-Utah mean to non-rugby people?

It was a big time fuck up not to sign on for the Wasatch Cup being there full time.


I'm afraid this is how the JWRT games will look this summer too... So much for Utah being the "hotbed of rugby" in the USA... :(


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Where the fcuk are the Utah Supporters?


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Cal beats Utah 23-22 on a penalty at the death. Can't imagine Cal didn't field close to a full strength side given their focus on P12 rugby and last week's result. Definitely a rebuilding year for Cal and gives more credence to the D1-A champ being the true champ.


Utah lost to SFGG 19-58 and to St Marys 10-41 this season. Cal only managed to squeak a one-point win with a last minute kick. Something weird going on with the Cal team... They totally dominated Utah last year, can't imagine their level of play dropping so much...


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D1-A scores

Colorado 48, Colorado St 20
Life 72, Texas A&M 3
Oklahoma 29, Notre Dame 22
St Mary's 76, UCLA 19
Air Force 44, Arizona 21
BYU 54, Arizona St 13
Navy 64, Rutgers 3


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D1-A scores

Colorado 48, Colorado St 20
Life 72, Texas A&M 3
Oklahoma 29, Notre Dame 22
St Mary's 76, UCLA 19
Air Force 44, Arizona 21
BYU 54, Arizona St 13
Navy 64, Rutgers 3


Army 32 Delaware 8

Very fun match actually, UD were sticking it to Army early on, and an upset looked feasible, but as happens so often the fitness of the cadets proved to be more than enough to turn the tide in the second half.

I refereed the High School match that took place before, Xavier vs St Joes. A great match between NY State champs and PA State champs. Ran 3.6 miles in that one, and then was AR for the Army/UD match and managed 2.75 miles up and down the touchlines. Needless to say I was pretty tired after that.


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